Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
I think youre being very naive if you think that minerals deal wasnt a crock from the start or that it wasnt a pre planned ambush.
Zelensky presumably saw and agreed to the terms of the deal in order to make the journey, and I'm not sure what Trump or Vance gained from having to cancel the signing ceremony designed to show off Trump's achievement as the great dealmaker. Watching the whole thing through I think it's what appeared to be, in fact the changes in body language by the second reveal it: a meeting that went well for the first half hour but then fell apart, and from which none of the participants gained any particular benefit, in fact quite the opposite.