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Thread: Rams in for in-form Scottish striker

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    re: Rams in for in-form Scottish striker

    Quote Originally Posted by RamBamFan
    That's what I'm assuming. The amount of interest will mean Hibs will get pound signs in their eyes.

    Where would I get gems from? England. Where the standard is undebatable. There's plenty of talent in league one which is only a step below the Championship and any of the teams in there would challenge Celtic.

    AnagRam and Anywho, say we signed him this summer, what would you do with him?
    Of course Hibs will 'get pound signs in their eyes', doesn't mean we have to look into them and I think Anywho's comparison with JR is more realistic.
    As for what I'd do with him, clearly I haven't a clue. He may be one for the future or may step up to the mark earlier. Like you I know next to nothing about the player but fortunately it's not up to us, it's a decision for the scouts, the manager and the owner and, on the evidence of their most recent signings, I'm inclined to trust their judgement.

    How does taking a 'punt' on a player of re

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    re: Rams in for in-form Scottish striker

    Quote Originally Posted by AnagRam
    That's what I'm assuming. The amount of interest will mean Hibs will get pound signs in their eyes.

    Where would I get gems from? England. Where the standard is undebatable. There's plenty of talent in league one which is only a step below the Championship and any of the teams in there would challenge Celtic.

    AnagRam and Anywho, say we signed him this summer, what would you do with him?
    Of course Hibs will 'get pound signs in their eyes', doesn't mean we have to look into them and I think Anywho's comparison with JR is more realistic.
    As for what I'd do with him, clearly I haven't a clue. He may be one for the future or may step up to the mark earlier. Like you I know next to nothing about the player but fortunately it's not up to us, it's a decision for the scouts, the manager and the owner and, on the evidence of their most recent signings, I'm inclined to trust their judgement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RamBamFan

    AnagRam and Anywho, say we signed him this summer, what would you do with him?
    Pretty much what I said in my earlier post: "As things stand, he would probably come under the oft quoted category of 'one for the future'. U21 squad and see how he fared".

    That's if (and it's a big if, based upon tabloid speculation) we were to attempt to sign him - and certainly for a lot less than £1m.

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    RamBam, I agree with you about the dubious 'paper talk' but your comparison with Dawkins is, imo, nonsense.
    If I've got you right, you seem to suddenly be blaming Dawkins for a Buxton/Keogh mistake from eighteen months ago and using it as a reason for never signing an 'unproven' youngster. Seems a bit daft to me, as does drawing any comparison between the, as yet, unproven Cummings and a Jamaican international who came to us via Tottenham and Villa.

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    1) Would he want to leave to play in the reserves? I highly doubt it.
    2) Look at the players in the under 21s at the moment, who's the most expensive player there? As far as I'm aware, none of them are at least six figures. We're not Chelsea, we don't buy players to let them 'see how they fare' in the reserves. Just because we have a bit of money doesn't mean we should throw it at players because they have a bit of potential. As I say, however much he is, it can comfortably be used elsewhere.
    3) The point I was trying to make about Dawkins was that players that are not good enough can be costly.

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    RamBam, I'm sure you're a great guy and for what it's worth I think you make a lot of sense sometimes but this time I honestly give up.
    a) It was Keogh and Buxton who combined to make that 'costly' mistake eighteen months ago and they are, in most people's opinion, 'good enough'. Just get over it, both unfair and irrelevant to blame Dawkins.
    b) Only you are talking about an exorbitant fee and even you've come down by £900,000 to get from a seven figure fee (posts 8 and 15) to 'at least six figures' as you mention in your last post.
    Can't make it any clearer mate. You may well be right about the risk - who can tell - but your reasoning on this one is bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamBamFan
    1) Would he want to leave to play in the reserves? I highly doubt it.
    If we take the reports as accurate for arguments sake, which of the linked teams do you see him walking straight into the matchday squad of: Us, Bournemouth, Brighton, Fulham and Cardiff City?

    Are you saying we should only sign players who will waltz straight into our starting eleven unless they cost next to nothing?

    I would think most young players are aware of the usual career progression. Move from the first team of a smaller club (I know, a subjective term) to be a squad/fringe player at a larger one with the aim to prove themselves and wait for the opportunity.


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    I only bought Dawkins in to the equation to make a point otherwise he's irrelevant to the conversation!

    I haven't come down by £900,000, I was merely saying it's definitely going to be six figures which is a lot to pay for a guy that will be in the reserves.

    My reasoning is simple. Spend the money on a player that will definitely do something. Not a reserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anywho
    1) Would he want to leave to play in the reserves? I highly doubt it.
    If we take the reports as accurate, which of the linked teams do you see him walking straight into the matchday squad of: Us, Bournemouth, Brighton, Fulham and Cardiff City?[/quote]

    I can see Fulham and Cardiff. They can afford to take risk. The former is almost certainly going to finish in mid table. And I wouldn't use the term 'walking in'. As I said before, I don't think Scottish Championship standard is up to much. But if they do sign him then I'm sure they would give him a chance. Because they're not half way through one of their most important seasons.

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    re: Rams in for in-form Scottish striker

    Quote Originally Posted by RamBamFan
    Spend the money on a player that will definitely do something. Not a reserve.
    And how do you establish that the player you are spending money on will 'do something'? Buy him and throw them straight into the squad? That seems a risky strategy to me.


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