Eu madness-

[Trickytreesreds]

The EU never does nothing, put it down to work in progress and new deadlines which might be achieved and then again might not. At the moment we do have a say in the matter and criticise the speed of progress and remove those who are dragging their feet. You won't if you have your way and a return to those days when you lived downstream from your rival and had to suffer from what he threw into the river. By the way Germans are just as answerable to the European Commission as we are.

I'd like to think so Basil, but I don't believe it.
You see, for a man so passionate about things, you don't seem to do your homework.
Look at this objectively. Everyone knows Merkel screams and gets what she wants. Do you not believe, that see hasn't set the EU up to suit Germany?
Germany are the only country making a mint in the EU. THINK ABOUT THAT?
We may be IN but get nothing- 70 votes - 70 defeats

http://bruegel.org/2015/04/measuring...-institutions/ READ THIS

[RedBasie]

I'd like to think so Basil, but I don't believe it.
You see, for a man so passionate about things, you don't seem to do your homework.
Look at this objectively. Everyone knows Merkel screams and gets what she wants. Do you not believe, that see hasn't set the EU up to suit Germany?
Germany are the only country making a mint in the EU. THINK ABOUT THAT?
We may be IN but get nothing- 70 votes - 70 defeats

http://bruegel.org/2015/04/measuring...-institutions/ READ THIS

Just because my ideas don't conform to your prejudices doesn't mean to to say I have not done my homework, but in a me first materialistic society one is really restricted in choice to pick anything good on either side to stick your flag on to. Politician's are those who see which way the crowd is heading jump in front and say follow me. The result is you always get politicians who reflect your values albeit greed and aggression. You yourself would not have a say or a view if people showed responsibility to others, good stewardship and trod lightly on the planet therefore attracting politicians who share those views . Unfortunately that isn't so Basie struggles and Tricky rules OK apart from being turned on sometimes by his own who are equally greedy and aggressive. Anyway back to subject matter and another stupid question. What happens if Greece defaults how does Germany make it's mint out of Europe and remember there might be Italy and Spain following. If Merkel screams it is our duty to see that she don't get what she wants but what Europe wants, just as it would if we came out and were forced to exist with those trying to formulate policy in Post Europe UK.