Trident

[Stupie82]

Carl Sagan got it right when he said " The nuclear arms race is like two sworn enemies standing waist deep in Gasoline, one with 3 matches and the other with 5".

The argument that it is a deterrent is completely flawed IMO. It will only take a nutter or a mad man to launch a nuclear attack in the first place, therefore who is it a deterrent to exactly? Anyone who launches one of these weapons doesn't care about the consequences they create.

IMO,They are a completely useless weapon unless used to create terror. Using them in "defence" will only lead to terror and the loss of many more innocent lives, and for what? revenge? I personally cant see why any country needs them, but while some have them and refuse to get rid of them, I guess they will always exist. One of these days this world will again see destruction caused by a nuclear bomb and that alone is a terrifying thought.

[Barnared]

Carl Sagan got it right when he said " The nuclear arms race is like two sworn enemies standing waist deep in Gasoline, one with 3 matches and the other with 5".

The argument that it is a deterrent is completely flawed IMO. It will only take a nutter or a mad man to launch a nuclear attack in the first place, therefore who is it a deterrent to exactly? Anyone who launches one of these weapons doesn't care about the consequences they create.

IMO,They are a completely useless weapon unless used to create terror. Using them in "defence" will only lead to terror and the loss of many more innocent lives, and for what? revenge? I personally cant see why any country needs them, but while some have them and refuse to get rid of them, I guess they will always exist. One of these days this world will again see destruction caused by a nuclear bomb and that alone is a terrifying thought.

I really like that

[Aldo1983]

There was an arguement during the referendum about how many jobs there actually are then it transpired that the number of Scottish based workers was very low.

As for the weapons themselves, how many of the UKs nukes are based there? Is it all of them? I wonder where France, the US and Russia keep theirs?

[Buc]

So wgat was the news on about 10k for

I bet that wasn't on CH 4 news
The BBC is indeed run by the government never watch it.

[Buc]

Here's the cake slice of percentages.

https://www.theengineer.co.uk/issues...ewing-trident/



Edit to say its a couple of years since that link 100bn in 2014 to a now more mindbogglingly 205bn

What will it really be 2020.

[Stupie82]

Here's the cake slice of percentages.

https://www.theengineer.co.uk/issues...ewing-trident/



Edit to say its a couple of years since that link 100bn in 2014 to a now more mindbogglingly 205bn

What will it really be 2020.

Now come one, that doesn't matter... you cant put a price tag on "safety" ;-)

well.. clearly you can put one on stupidity and waste though!

[Barnared]

You're right Stupie. If some phukin retard called Mohammed is chasing after me wi an axe, I wanna know that May or Boris are standing there ready to press the button.

[Buc]

Now come one, that doesn't matter... you cant put a price tag on "safety" ;-)

well.. clearly you can put one on stupidity and waste though!

A price tag on safety I've mentioned the 5 cat B incidents now that isn't safety ..

I'd rather we spent that money on the people who are being kept away from the drugs they really need to keep them not only in good health but in some cases alive .
Its not the government who should have voted for it it should have been up to the people of this country in an ideal world which I know it isn't.
Out of curiosity Stupie would you press the button and kill millions of woman and children let's not also forget about the suffering in the aftermath of such an event ..
A kid here is no different from a kid anywhere else in the world .
I'm sure you'd also agree suffering is horrible to witness in anyone.

[Buc]

Interesting read


http://www.cnduk.org/campaigns/globa...uclear-weapons

[Stupie82]

A price tag on safety I've mentioned the 5 cat B incidents now that isn't safety ..

I'd rather we spent that money on the people who are being kept away from the drugs they really need to keep them not only in good health but in some cases alive .
Its not the government who should have voted for it it should have been up to the people of this country in an ideal world which I know it isn't.
Out of curiosity Stupie would you press the button and kill millions of woman and children let's not also forget about the suffering in the aftermath of such an event ..
A kid here is no different from a kid anywhere else in the world .
I'm sure you'd also agree suffering is horrible to witness in anyone.

I must apologise Buc, im not sure my sarcasm was picked up on my post above. Just to be clear, I am 100% against nuclear weapons in general, weapon systems as a whole and any trident system in this country. They will never be used, which makes them a complete waste of public cash and the do not deter anyone mad enough to use them.