OT. The futures Bright, the Futures Brexit!!!

[roger_ramjet]

666 the number of the Mangara

[roger_ramjet]

Mangara of Corondor - Mangara is pretty neat - he can exile any permanent you want gone! Need to take out a Ram59 before you die? Done! Need to take out a troublesome enchantment that’s protecting your opponent? Poof! Even a scary land like the land of Tricky that’s about to go off can be eaten by Mangara. The catch is that Mangara goes with it - and even as your Commander, that tax is gonna add up (and you can’t rely on yesterday’s Beacon forever!). So what do you do? Simple: you read your card. Exiling Mangara isn’t a cost to activate his ability, which many people assume- it’s PART of the ability (everything on the LEFT of that colon is a cost, everything on the RIGHT is the ability). So you can activate Mangara, then “save” him somehow (return to your hand with a Whitemane Lion! Exile it temporarily with Otherworldly Journey!), or you could even untap him with a card like Thousand-Year Elixir and use him over and over again to exile multiple things!

[AngryRam]

Mangara of Corondor - Mangara is pretty neat - he can exile any permanent you want gone! Need to take out a Ram59 before you die? Done! Need to take out a troublesome enchantment that’s protecting your opponent? Poof! Even a scary land like the land of Tricky that’s about to go off can be eaten by Mangara. The catch is that Mangara goes with it - and even as your Commander, that tax is gonna add up (and you can’t rely on yesterday’s Beacon forever!). So what do you do? Simple: you read your card. Exiling Mangara isn’t a cost to activate his ability, which many people assume- it’s PART of the ability (everything on the LEFT of that colon is a cost, everything on the RIGHT is the ability). So you can activate Mangara, then “save” him somehow (return to your hand with a Whitemane Lion! Exile it temporarily with Otherworldly Journey!), or you could even untap him with a card like Thousand-Year Elixir and use him over and over again to exile multiple things!

Sherry again?

[AngryRam]

This thing about manufacturing being in decline needs a response - no doubt, we don't produce as much by volume as we used to, but we just need to get over ourselves on that, we are never going to pay our workers the pittance that workers in the far East etc are paid, and we have instead focussed on high-tech. I was sitting on some Chinese-made bar stools this evening and I bought them new for maybe half the price the raw materials would cost me in UK, BUT I don't recall ever taking a flight on a Chinese powered aeroplane

Spot on, we evolve. I'm just gutted our witch dunking chair manufacturing base has declined. I thought that was going to be the end of us.
China now was a problem in as much as their population is getting wealthy and labour is becoming more expensive. Vietnam is now becoming more attractive to some companies. Even Madagascar in the garment world is pushing India for the same reasons.

[roger_ramjet]

Soon totally deprived places like Nottingham will challenge yhe Madagascan pre-eminence in the clothing sector

[Trickytreesreds]

Wish we'd found a gag for that 'previously silent majority' tbh.

And that quote Swale, is right out of the EU operating manual.

Do as we say, not as you want to do. Bugger democracy, we don't want you to have any.

The demands and bullying have already started.

Germany/Portugal/ Czechs insisting on free movement ( Denmark/Austria/bulgaria show support)
Greece wants guarantees on its tourism
Spain wants joint ownership of Gibraltar
East Europeans still want us pouring cash into their troughs
Austria wants us banned from awarding power subsidies
Italy is demanding all the banks move there
Luxembourg wants all the financial jobs there

Of course all this was being done under cover before, but now its out in the open.
Folks actually want to be involved with these manipulative *******s?

[ramAnag]

Sherry again?

Sherry? Mescalin and/or Absinthe at least I'd suspect. Sort of, stream of consciousness meets Middle Earth and Narnia. Entertaining RR, but I've no idea what you're on about.

More seriously, never thought when I joined this forum that I'd be debating/learning about the ways of business. No idea what Angry actually does but his views on the world economy are always interesting and apparently informed. Likewise with AF, suspect he may work for the other RR and although we don't always agree, a different (business) perspective is proving interesting...who are these 'circling Sharks' though AF and how worried should we be?

Pity Manx and Cornwall rarely contribute these days, their views on the current situation would doubtless offer more insight too.

[Andy_Faber]

Sherry? Mescalin and/or Absinthe at least I'd suspect. Sort of, stream of consciousness meets Middle Earth and Narnia. Entertaining RR, but I've no idea what you're on about.

More seriously, never thought when I joined this forum that I'd be debating/learning about the ways of business. No idea what Angry actually does but his views on the world economy are always interesting and apparently informed. Likewise with AF, suspect he may work for the other RR and although we don't always agree, a different (business) perspective is proving interesting...who are these 'circling Sharks' though AF and how worried should we be?

Pity Manx and Cornwall rarely contribute these days, their views on the current situation would doubtless offer more insight too.

The circling Sharks? (Remember I voted remain, but....) The joke of the EU is that, when push comes to shove, every country within it is in it for their own well and good, not the good of the entity as a whole, and every country will become a shark circling round the UK's economic assets. SO....The French in particular are putting massive efforts into enticing financial services resource out of London into Paris (I think that will ultimately fail because of two very 'French' things, their reluctance to embrace the English language as openly as, lets say, everyone else, and their relatively high levels of bureaucracy, but we'll see). Every country in the Eastern EU will want that Nissan business out of Sunderland. I'm aware of two big construction industry providers that are being courted by EU states who's only benefit over UK is the currently favourable USD and CDND exchange rates. There is going to be a bloodbath if we aren't bloody smart, we may just end up with Bakewell Pudding and F1, and those two examples are good ones - the former is protected by law which of course you can't do for everything, and the latter is simply because by a country mile we are better at it than anyone or anywhere else. Its the latter we have to work on, being better at difficult stuff. Take a look at the website of The MTC, that's where the fightback should be centred and for all I know it is. Right, just off to pull out my gramophone record of Land Of Hope And Glory.....

[AngryRam]

Sherry? Mescalin and/or Absinthe at least I'd suspect. Sort of, stream of consciousness meets Middle Earth and Narnia. Entertaining RR, but I've no idea what you're on about.

More seriously, never thought when I joined this forum that I'd be debating/learning about the ways of business. No idea what Angry actually does but his views on the world economy are always interesting and apparently informed. Likewise with AF, suspect he may work for the other RR and although we don't always agree, a different (business) perspective is proving interesting...who are these 'circling Sharks' though AF and how worried should we be?

Pity Manx and Cornwall rarely contribute these days, their views on the current situation would doubtless offer more insight too.

I work in Brussels..

[ramAnag]

So there we have it...from a moderate, intelligent and somewhat reluctant 'Remainer' who apparently works in and understands the world of trade and industry...'the sharks are circling...there is going to be a bloodbath if we aren't bloody smart'.
All totally avoidable and self inflicted. Thank you so much to Farage and - in his own words - the 'little people' who he - and others - misled into voting for this nonsense. You must all be really proud.