I voted yes....but felt like I'd been kicked in the ba's the day

[Bodie80]

Again you avoid my question you are the one who CANT answer any question there's a few on here that has answered your questions but you ignore them or indeed say whatever rude word you feel like using at the time .
It's obvious you are a unionist at ALL costs .and again your hate for the SNP shows through Paddy
Regards John .

Buc , Noah's question has not been answered at all. You are like the party you support, deny, deflect and blame someone else.
Maybe you will answer me. Please explain how an independent Scotland will handle the 15 billion pound hole in our finances ? Thanks in advance

And I would say you want independence at any cost. I remember you saying that you would give your life for Scotland to be independent.Now to me that is at any cost. I certainly wouldn't give my life for Scotland to stay in the Union. And your hate for the Union shines through as you have proven time and time again. That's fair enough but you have to accept that there is people like myself that totally disagrees with your political views in every shape and form. People,that love both Scotland and GB.
That's life

[stewarty27]

Maybe you will answer me. Please explain how an independent Scotland will handle the 15 billion pound hole in our finances ?

Bodie please try and understand what is being said here. GERS is compiled by the Westminster Government regardless of who is in charge and the base data comes from the Treasury in London these are facts. Using the data supplied to them the civil servants in Scotland compile the GERS figures using accounting rules laid down by / agreed with the Treasury for all regional accounts, North of England, Wales etc etc – it therefor includes a population share of costs of running the UK of which many would not apply in an independent Scotland. These figures cannot be used to compare an independent Scotland. Much of this particular figures have been accrued in Westminster. I'll give you one example ..Defence Scotland's contribution is £3Bn but it only has £1.3 is spent in Scotland thus we have £1.7Bn added to our running costs. So the point I'm trying to get across is its totally ridiculous to ask how an Independent Scotland would deal with a £14Bn deficit because we would be in a completely different situation. Without being rude do you actually understand that Bodie. ?

[noahrab]

Bodie please try and understand what is being said here. GERS is compiled by the Westminster Government regardless of who is in charge and the base data comes from the Treasury in London these are facts. Using the data supplied to them the civil servants in Scotland compile the GERS figures using accounting rules laid down by / agreed with the Treasury for all regional accounts, North of England, Wales etc etc – it therefor includes a population share of costs of running the UK of which many would not apply in an independent Scotland. These figures cannot be used to compare an independent Scotland. Much of this particular figures have been accrued in Westminster. I'll give you one example ..Defence Scotland's contribution is £3Bn but it only has £1.3 is spent in Scotland thus we have £1.7Bn added to our running costs. So the point I'm trying to get across is its totally ridiculous to ask how an Independent Scotland would deal with a £14Bn deficit because we would be in a completely different situation. Without being rude do you actually understand that Bodie. ?

SNP quite happy to use GERS when it suits though.

[Bodie80]

Bodie please try and understand what is being said here. GERS is compiled by the Westminster Government regardless of who is in charge and the base data comes from the Treasury in London these are facts. Using the data supplied to them the civil servants in Scotland compile the GERS figures using accounting rules laid down by / agreed with the Treasury for all regional accounts, North of England, Wales etc etc – it therefor includes a population share of costs of running the UK of which many would not apply in an independent Scotland. These figures cannot be used to compare an independent Scotland. Much of this particular figures have been accrued in Westminster. I'll give you one example ..Defence Scotland's contribution is £3Bn but it only has £1.3 is spent in Scotland thus we have £1.7Bn added to our running costs. So the point I'm trying to get across is its totally ridiculous to ask how an Independent Scotland would deal with a £14Bn deficit because we would be in a completely different situation. Without being rude do you actually understand that Bodie. ?

Spin it how you want Stewarty, you lot are good at that. Scotland would have a massive deficit and we would be screwed.
And how phucking rude and condescending, I thought you were better than that

[JackSnakes]

Spin it how you want Stewarty, you lot are good at that. Scotland would have a massive deficit and we would be screwed.
And how phucking rude and condescending, I thought you were better than that

Scotland's deficit would be no bigger than the rest of the UK's and there is absolutely no reason whatsoever except blind bias to believe that Scotland would be 'screwed'

[Bodie80]

Scotland's deficit would be no bigger than the rest of the UK's and there is absolutely no reason whatsoever except blind bias to believe that Scotland would be 'screwed'

There is no reason or evidence to believe we would not be screwed.
And it's definitely not blind biased Jack

[JackSnakes]

There is no reason or evidence to believe we would not be screwed.
And it's definitely not blind biased Jack

Eh? Does the sky fall down every time you go out?
This is just so ridiculously unreasonable it is impossible to argue against.
Are you seriously trying to say, on a public message board, that Scotland and the Scots have neither the will nor the wit to manage their affairs?
That a nation of five million people are utterly incapable of managing their affairs?
Is every household in Scotland struggling under a mountain of debt because every member of the population is too stupid to even maintain a reasonable household budget?
This is, by far, the most insulting thing I have ever seen on this topic. It even beats the disgusting "Hamish" rubbish the huns come out with.
It is desperately sad that you have such a low opinion of your countrymen.
Yet you want to move down here - this country IS screwed because the Westminster government are utterly incapable of managing their budget and the deficit is spiralling out of control and rising every second.
It makes it even more insulting that you think Scotland cannot do a better job than the incompetent idiots in Westminster right now

[Bodie80]

Eh? Does the sky fall down every time you go out?
This is just so ridiculously unreasonable it is impossible to argue against.
Are you seriously trying to say, on a public message board, that Scotland and the Scots have neither the will nor the wit to manage their affairs?
That a nation of five million people are utterly incapable of managing their affairs?
Is every household in Scotland struggling under a mountain of debt because every member of the population is too stupid to even maintain a reasonable household budget?
This is, by far, the most insulting thing I have ever seen on this topic. It even beats the disgusting "Hamish" rubbish the huns come out with.
It is desperately sad that you have such a low opinion of your countrymen.
Yet you want to move down here - this country IS screwed because the Westminster government are utterly incapable of managing their budget and the deficit is spiralling out of control and rising every second.
It makes it even more insulting that you think Scotland cannot do a better job than the incompetent idiots in Westminster right now

You are taking what you think I mean out of my post which is insulting to me. I don't have a low opinion of my countrymen. Scotland would be running at a massive deficit, bigger than any other country in Europe. So yes I think we would be skint.
We do not have enough people or resources to maintain the standard of living we have just now. It's nothing to do with the will of the Scotttish people who by the way voted to stay in the Union. Please do not ever put words in my mouth, thanks

[54FairAndSquare]

Spin it how you want Stewarty, you lot are good at that. Scotland would have a massive deficit and we would be screwed.
And how phucking rude and condescending, I thought you were better than that

IQ27 is one of Nanny Nikki's little scotomatons who sit at keyboards all day spouting pre-fabricated propaganda from the Ministry of Truth. The fact he actually believes it is a bonus for them

[Buc]

Buc , Noah's question has not been answered at all. You are like the party you support, deny, deflect and blame someone else.
Maybe you will answer me. Please explain how an independent Scotland will handle the 15 billion pound hole in our finances ? Thanks in advance

And I would say you want independence at any cost. I remember you saying that you would give your life for Scotland to be independent.Now to me that is at any cost. I certainly wouldn't give my life for Scotland to stay in the Union. And your hate for the Union shines through as you have proven time and time again. That's fair enough but you have to accept that there is people like myself that totally disagrees with your political views in every shape and form. People,that love both Scotland and GB.
That's life

Bodie you are the as huge a unionist with nearly the same dislike!e as noarab so NOTHING we ever will say will change your thoughts

But will say this you are at least a gentleman of this board unlike your unionist friend Paddy .

You are better posting over the road as I feel it will end up just a political board full of stalemate and even fewer posters on here they are leaving because of the likes of your hate filled friend ..

Just look at his abusive rude replies even though you may agree with his Politics I'm sorry to say this but he comes across as not all there .