Phuck off FIFA....

[claw84]

telling us we cannot wear our poppies on Remembrance day, lets get it straight the Poppy is not a religious, commercial or political symbol.

It is a symbol for us to remember all those who have died for our freedom, we shall not forget them..

The secretary general of FIFA is a woman from Senegal Africa, and she said "well what about the war in Syria and the wars in Africa". WHATTTT is she on about. Who appointed her to the job as it appears she has no concept of world affairs.

The team will come out wearing poppies.

[alfinyalcabo]

Hear hear ..

[Altobelli]

The team will come out wearing poppies.

For those British players who want to wear it the FA must defy FIFA on this claw.

[frenchlion]

telling us we cannot wear our poppies on Remembrance day, lets get it straight the Poppy is not a religious, commercial or political symbol.

It is a symbol for us to remember all those who have died for our freedom, we shall not forget them..

The secretary general of FIFA is a woman from Senegal Africa, and she said "well what about the war in Syria and the wars in Africa". WHATTTT is she on about. Who appointed her to the job as it appears she has no concept of world affairs.

The team will come out wearing poppies.

Evening Claw.
I agree with most of what you have posted but FIFA have rules concerning kit that have existed for years and have been respected by all members including the home nations. That England & Scotland want to wear special armbands...why not...but FIFA fear it will create a precedent and it will lead for example to the USA and 9/11, Japan and Hiroshima,Thaïlande and the Tsunami.and every other country that wants to commemorate something and once the door is open you can bet your life we Will start seeing,Starbucks, MacDo et all plastered all over the shirts.
But on the subject of poppies, when I was a kid growing up in London in the 50s and 60s the poppies (from memory) went on sale about a week before rememberence Sunday..many wore them and just as many did not.
The week-end before last one of my cousins came to visit me with his wife and kids they were all wearing poppies....more than 3 weeks before the 11th...It seems to me that there are more people wearing poppies now than when the people who actually experienced the Horrors of WW1 were still alive. The impression (from where I live) is if you don't have a poppy, particularly a celebrity, people come down on you like Ã* ton of bricks. The other subject that Has changed over the years is the minute's silence. I remember that there was a ceremony in Whitehall when the Queen would lay a reaf at the Cenotaphe followed by a minute of silence. You would get about 30 seconds coverage on the evening news and that was it.
Today we Will have a minute's silence in every stadium in The land with probably the exception of Parkhead. I first started going to the Den in the 1957/8 season and up until ´73 when I left for France I honestly can't remember observing a minutes silence for anything or anybody at a football match. I am not against a minutes silence but why not nationwide at 11:00 on the 11th of November.?

[claw84]

Hi Frenchie, I hear what you are saying about a precedent but it has already been done before. in 2011 Blatter gave the go ahead to wear a poppy on a black armband in our game against Spain.

As for the remembrance service on the Sunday it is always shown in full.With a shortened version later in the evening on BBC2.
Yesterday Simon Weston of Falklands fame and Ben MacBean ex Royal Marine who lost his legs in Afganistan went to Zurich with a 300,000 petition and also to explain to FIFA officials what the Poppy means.

Three Lions led by FIFA donkeys.

[frenchlion]

Hi Frenchie, I hear what you are saying about a precedent but it has already been done before. in 2011 Blatter gave the go ahead to wear a poppy on a black armband in our game against Spain.

As for the remembrance service on the Sunday it is always shown in full.With a shortened version later in the evening on BBC2.
Yesterday Simon Weston of Falklands fame and Ben MacBean ex Royal Marine who lost his legs in Afganistan went to Zurich with a 300,000 petition and also to explain to FIFA officials what the Poppy means.

Three Lions led by FIFA donkeys.

Evening Claw...As a kid my family didn't have a TV until approximately ´59/60 and afterwards I really don't remember seeing The commemoration live on TV..maybe because it was on a Sunday morning..anyway I believe what You have posted.

[claw84]

Evening Claw...As a kid my family didn't have a TV until approximately ´59/60 and afterwards I really don't remember seeing The commemoration live on TV..maybe because it was on a Sunday morning..anyway I believe what You have posted.

Anyway back to business, tonight lets hope we get through to the 2ed round, there are only 2 matches tonight and of course the other is Swindon which is on the box, so just maybe they will show highlights.

Sad to see the squalor in the centre of Paris from the migrants you have to start deporting them, it's a right mess.

[frenchlion]

As long as Shengen exists it will not stop. Most arrive via Italy and are then ushered on to France. As border control is practically non existant and there are Christ knows how many routes and ways of crossing the French border it Will never stop.
The only way of stopping economic migration is to seriously develop economically the African continent but as corruption is rife from the very top to the very bottom it Will not happen in our life time.

[Acido]

It sucks doesnt it Claw, just who do these ignorant Fifa morons think they are to try and take something away from us Brits who have done this for so many years now. What is the problem here, the wearing of the poppy doesnt offer any insult or threat to any other nation, its meant to offer respect and honour to our own hero's who lost their lives all those years ago.
And it never used to be an issue, why are they going all ridiculous about it now ?

[gaz1959]

I agree with calw and also see what FL is saying.

For me the poppy ilustrated the blood and gore that war pertained. I remember when young questioning the morality of the poppy but realising too the lost lives.

Now the poppy fight seems to be a fight for sovereignty but really it is the fight for the loss of life in war.

The reasoning of our support for the poppy has changed I think.

But FIFA being blinkered and naive is no help either