o/t Sack John Bercow immediately

[Ellis_D]

Once again you're chery picking to suit your agenda, you really are a piece of work Ellis, if you can't play it straight and accept that you're wrong, then don't bother.

Ignored by the Catholic church....
Times have changed....

You're getting desperate now, plainly...

So you don't think times have changed? You think the country is the same as it was forty years ago? Let's take it a little further than that. In the second world war, it's often ignored that Britain and a lot of Europe were also against Jews, and indeed, we could have saved many of them. But we never. We conveniently overlook that fact and pretend it was just the Nazis who were bed.

40 years ago, discrimination against Jews, blacks, Pakistanis, gays, etc, etc, was seen as completely normal behaviour. Most people used derogatory words towards them and it was socially acceptable.

But you are going to try and pretend that I am the one not playing it straight? I'm getting desperate? You are just going to lie and try to pretend that we times haven't changed and that we haven't become a much more politically correct nation? Really?!

[Ellis_D]

Ellis D or LSD always distorts reality, no?

Go on then, what am I distorting? Are you going to lie and try to pretend that times haven't changed too? So we discriminate against minority groups in England like we used to forty years ago, do we?

[millmoormagic]

So you don't think times have changed? You think the country is the same as it was forty years ago? Let's take it a little further than that. In the second world war, it's often ignored that Britain and a lot of Europe were also against Jews, and indeed, we could have saved many of them. But we never. We conveniently overlook that fact and pretend it was just the Nazis who were bed.

40 years ago, discrimination against Jews, blacks, Pakistanis, gays, etc, etc, was seen as completely normal behaviour. Most people used derogatory words towards them and it was socially acceptable.

But you are going to try and pretend that I am the one not playing it straight? I'm getting desperate? You are just going to lie and try to pretend that we times haven't changed and that we haven't become a much more politically correct nation? Really?!

One thing for you to remember, i'm no liar, and i don't cherry pick certain stuff to suit my argument.

Just one thing about the jews and us re WW2, we took in 10000 jewish kids prior to the start of the war, yeh, we hated them...

[Ellis_D]

One thing for you to remember, i'm no liar, and i don't cherry pick certain stuff to suit my argument.

Just one thing about the jews and us re WW2, we took in 10000 jewish kids prior to the start of the war, yeh, we hated them...

The original post was that the police and social services never ignore child abuse when it's by white English men. You then said the Catholic church abuse has been ignored for years. I said, yes, by the Catholic church, not by police and you have accused me of cherry picking. Please kindly explain how that is cherry picking?!

[sawmiller]

Go on then, what am I distorting? Are you going to lie and try to pretend that times haven't changed too? So we discriminate against minority groups in England like we used to forty years ago, do we?

Ellis - my post was intended to be light hearted. OK - I can see how angry you are about this, and I don't think it is helpful for any people of whatever political or racial background to be seen to commit crimes and not be held to account. You and millmoormagic both make valid points. It is Friday night, the end of a working week - time to have some relaxation? Enjoy your weekend

[Ellis_D]

Ellis - my post was intended to be light hearted. OK - I can see how angry you are about this, and I don't think it is helpful for any people of whatever political or racial background to be seen to commit crimes and not be held to account. You and millmoormagic both make valid points. It is Friday night, the end of a working week - time to have some relaxation? Enjoy your weekend

Lol, fair enough, I have only just re-read your post and made sense of it, I was busy earlier whilst viewing here so only had part of my brain working on it! (Yes millmoor, which doesn't leave much brain, I know).

But yes, very good actually haha, LSD does distort reality! I've had a few beers now, completely de-stressed and un-angry so I won't alter that by reading too much more on here tonight!