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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho_panza View Post
    The last poll on this showed 70% of Irish voters wanting to stay in the EU so there certainly isn't any sizeable support for them wanting to leave.
    So 30% wanting to be independent from the EU is not a sizeable support? (without any major parties in Ireland supporting it, pushing it, discussing it etc.)

    30% the historical figure of people in Scotland right up to 2014 that supported independence from the UK. (with one major party in Scotland standing for it, pushing for it and discussing it at every turn.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getintaethem View Post
    So 30% wanting to be independent from the EU is not a sizeable support? (without any major parties in Ireland supporting it, pushing it, discussing it etc.)

    30% the historical figure of people in Scotland right up to 2014 that supported independence from the UK. (with one major party in Scotland standing for it, pushing for it and discussing it at every turn.).
    That poll showed 28% wanting to leave if there's a hard Brexit that affects Ireland's access to the UK market (if there isn't a hard Brexit then it would be less than 28%). That's extremely low support for leaving the EU by European standards - basically widespread consensus that staying in the EU is a good thing even in hypothetical scenarios where it results in Ireland losing access to its most important market.

    And that was just one poll, if you go back through the Eurobarometer data on this the Irish have consistently shown extremely strong support for the EU. The 2016 Eurobarometer, for instance, only had 14% viewing the EU negatively. If you want to push the anti-EU angle (fairly obvious from the language you're using here) then Ireland is one of the worst countries you could have picked for that purpose. There's far more chance of us leaving the UK and joining Ireland in the EU than there is of the Irish leaving the EU and joining us in whatever 1950s fantasy the likes of David Davis and Liam Fox have in mind for us.

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