OT - UKIP wiped out in local elections

[Romanis]

You have a point there! Since he usually smells of garlic, he meets the basic criteria to become French citizen.
Trolol

[swaledale]

Not been unfortunate to smell him, but there is an unpleasant stench from his posts thats for sure!

[Trickytreesreds]

Tricky will be distraught but no surprise really as "their job is done"

Why would I be distraught Roger?
I didn't vote for them this time.
I did last time as a means to a vehicle. I got what I wanted.
No one would have ever given us, the Joe public a referendum without their pressure on the main parties.
They was voted into the European parliament by discontented common folk and they forced Cameron into making a biblical lack of judgment.

Cheers guys, now so long and thanks for all the fish.

[Trickytreesreds]

You have a point there! Since he usually smells of garlic, he meets the basic criteria to become French citizen.
Trolol

Oh I love how you two are getting along.
One socialist and one severe capitalist. It's wonderful to see.
Maybe Romanis has bought the Tory out in you Swale?

[swaledale]

Calling me a socialist is akin to calling the US Democrats socialist!

Interesting that you think that "common folk" are aligned to right wing philosophies, who or what are "common folk" anyway? Its true of course that history shows that right wing or fascist regimes have only prospered where those to thick to see beyond the end of their snouts have supported them in blind faith!

I rather think it was Tory eurosceptics that forced Cameron into his epic lack of judgement rather than UKIP and it was the support for UKIP either brazenly or in an underhand way by those same Tories that has created the mess we now face, I'm sure the "common folk" will be singing their praises when it does not quite turn out as they had hoped!!

[Romanis]

Oh I love how you two are getting along.
One socialist and one severe capitalist. It's wonderful to see.
Maybe Romanis has bought the Tory out in you Swale?

No I'm not a capitalist. I'm a liberal conservative.
But since now you've disingenuously disavowed the UKLP, you only got 1 choice. Conservative.

Welcome on board son.

[swaledale]

No I'm not a capitalist. I'm a liberal conservative.
But since now you've disingenuously disavowed the UKLP, you only got 1 choice. Conservative.

Welcome on board son.

Is there such a thing as a liberal conservative? Arent the two terms mutually exclusive? I suppose the Tory party is a broad church but not sure one can be a liberal conservative!

[Romanis]

Calling me a socialist is akin to calling the US Democrats socialist!

Interesting that you think that "common folk" are aligned to right wing philosophies, who or what are "common folk" anyway? Its true of course that history shows that right wing or fascist regimes have only prospered where those to thick to see beyond the end of their snouts have supported them in blind faith!

I rather think it was Tory eurosceptics that forced Cameron into his epic lack of judgement rather than UKIP and it was the support for UKIP either brazenly or in an underhand way by those same Tories that has created the mess we now face, I'm sure the "common folk" will be singing their praises when it does not quite turn out as they had hoped!!

Swale I'm sorry but the mess was created by tax and spend policies of Labour's Iron Chancellor. And the Tories have to once again clear the mess. That's why the voters have voted Conservative.
But I concede your point of Cameron's folly.

[Romanis]

I started out as liberal then conservative liberal now liberal conservative.
Simply means I believe in certain individual rights but not tax and spend.
People should work and be paid or do a business, and not expect hand outs from the state.
Business and not the state should power the economy.

[swaledale]

Swale I'm sorry but the mess was created by tax and spend policies of Labour's Iron Chancellor. And the Tories have to once again clear the mess. That's why the voters have voted Conservative.
But I concede your point of Cameron's folly.

Ah that old chestnut, you had me u to a point Romanis, until you blamed labour for the mess - so the world economic crash and the dodgy dealings of financial institutions had nothing whatsoever to do with it then?

Also the free market does not work for the majority if left unfettered, as even conservatives realise, in fact business depends upon largesse from the state to prosper!

It is ideology, not evidence, that fuels this image. A quick look at the pioneering technologies of the past century points to the state, not the private sector, as the most decisive player in the game.

Whether an innovation will be a success is uncertain and it can take longer than traditional banks or venture capitalists are willing to wait. In countries such as the US, China, Singapore and Denmark the state has provided the kind of patient and long-term finance new technologies need to get off the ground. Investments of this kind have often been driven by big missions, from putting a human on the moon, to solving climate change. This has required not only funding basic research – the typical “public good” that most economists admit needs state help – but applied research and seed funding too.