Ot- May calls for election in June.

[Trickytreesreds]

Tricky I'd ahve thought by now you would have learnt that people in glass houses should not throw stones!

So, evade the question then Swale. You have just defended the Abbopotamus, stating that "she is not racist, just a foot in mouth " person.

Now answer the question.

Is that line racist or not, Mr Righteous?

[swaledale]

So, evade the question then Swale. You have just defended the Abbopotamus, stating that "she is not racist, just a foot in mouth " person.

Now answer the question.

Is that line racist or not, Mr Righteous?

Ah so now you demonstrate why no intelligent person would take any notice of what you have to say, as you use childish name calling, says it all really.

Also read my post and you will see why that line is not racist!

[Trickytreesreds]

Ah so now you demonstrate why no intelligent person would take any notice of what you have to say, as you use childish name calling, says it all really.

Also read my post and you will see why that line is not racist!

You're full of **** Swale.

it is racist but doesn't suit your agenda.
Outed for the hypocrite you are.

[ramAnag]

Tricky, you are so intent on playing 'divide and rule' yourself that you have lost sight of the problem...or perhaps the problem doesn't suit your own agenda.
I find Diane Abbott intensely annoying. She is, as Swale suggests, a master of putting her foot in it, she often chooses her words ill advisedly, appears to be something of a hypocrite and has recently proved to be an electoral liability.
Having said that, you sometimes have to 'walk in the shoes of others' and although she has almost certainly benefited from 'positive discrimination' she has also experienced a level of prejudice that you or I cannot begin to imagine and there lies the real issue. Yes Diane Abbott's words were ill chosen and could be loosely described as 'racist' but in the grand scheme of things it is the black and Asian communities within Britain, the U.S. and much of Europe who are the victims of a much more pernicious form of institutionalised racism and if you are so concerned about this whole issue you might do well to remember that.

[swaledale]

You're full of **** Swale.

it is racist but doesn't suit your agenda.
Outed for the hypocrite you are.

Your the one with the agenda! As Anag has said and I have explained quite clearly it isn't racist and if you cannot understand that then thats surely more an indication of your inability to understand these matters?

As for hypocrisy, well you take a look back and some of the statements made in your many posts! Not to mention that you felt obliged to make an insulting comment about Abbott unrelated to what she had said.

[roger_ramjet]

Actually I dont understand why the comment is not racist either. I understand rA point that black and asian groups have been severely prejudiced against in the past but to rehash the phrase "two wrongs dont make a right".

Being a victim of a crime does not give you a free hand to commit a crime yourself with immunity from prosecution or criticism.

You would think that, as a victim of discrimination herself, she would be more self aware. She should surely understand that acting the same way towards others cannot be appropriate, notwithstanding "proportionality".

But we are talking DA here.....

[Trickytreesreds]

Your the one with the agenda! As Anag has said and I have explained quite clearly it isn't racist and if you cannot understand that then thats surely more an indication of your inability to understand these matters?

As for hypocrisy, well you take a look back and some of the statements made in your many posts! Not to mention that you felt obliged to make an insulting comment about Abbott unrelated to what she had said.

So finally we arrive at it Swale.
You are a hypocrite.

"it isn't racist"

It is most certainly is racist and had the shoe been on the other foot the world would have imploded

That is why I quoted the dictionary meaning of the word. You seem to have conveniently omitted that.
Even Ramanag, being an ex teacher, couldn't avoid it, but has.

So, what is the real meaning here? Well by my judgment it appears the left / liberals will let anything go unanswered, as long as it doesn't rock the apple cart.
Even if it goes against fair judgment and equilibrium
Be careful here, it is a fine balance between harmony and bias

[ramAnag]

Erm, hang on a minute...
1) Swale...I didn't say it wasn't racist.
2) Tricky...wtf has me being an 'ex teacher' got to do with anything and what does 'couldn't avoid it, but has' mean?

My point was that Abbott regularly chooses her words unwisely and has opened herself up to accusations of 'racism' but that all the protestations in the world from the likes of Tricky do not alter the fact that far more serious cases of racism are currently being directed at her and the black communities in general, so if, as you purport to be, you are so concerned about the matter of 'racism' you really need to look at the bigger picture.

Roger is, imo, absolutely right in his 'two wrongs' argument but racism is a form of bullying and one should never be too surprised when the victim bites back.

[Trickytreesreds]

Erm, hang on a minute...
1) Swale...I didn't say it wasn't racist.
2) Tricky...wtf has me being an 'ex teacher' got to do with anything and what does 'couldn't avoid it, but has' mean?

My point was that Abbott regularly chooses her words unwisely and has opened herself up to accusations of 'racism' but that all the protestations in the world from the likes of Tricky do not alter the fact that far more serious cases of racism are currently being directed at her and the black communities in general, so if, as you purport to be, you are so concerned about the matter of 'racism' you really need to look at the bigger picture.

Roger is, imo, absolutely right in his 'two wrongs' argument but racism is a form of bullying and one should never be too surprised when the victim bites back.

Words unwisely?

Are they racist or not?

As someone who worked in HMP. I was accused of it daily, as a weapon.
Yet had to endure snow flake/ honky/ vanilla face / powder/ wonder bread / gomer/ round eye without reprisal. So don't lecture me on it.

So by your reckoning, I would be entitled "to bite back"

This woman( I say in the loosest of terms) is the shadow home secretary. How the **** could anyone put the hippo in the public eye with a mouth like hers?

[Ram59]

Erm, hang on a minute...
1) Swale...I didn't say it wasn't racist.
2) Tricky...wtf has me being an 'ex teacher' got to do with anything and what does 'couldn't avoid it, but has' mean?

My point was that Abbott regularly chooses her words unwisely and has opened herself up to accusations of 'racism' but that all the protestations in the world from the likes of Tricky do not alter the fact that far more serious cases of racism are currently being directed at her and the black communities in general, so if, as you purport to be, you are so concerned about the matter of 'racism' you really need to look at the bigger picture.

Roger is, imo, absolutely right in his 'two wrongs' argument but racism is a form of bullying and one should never be too surprised when the victim bites back.

I would tend to agree with you anag, if she had just replied to a racist remark directed at herself, but this wasn't the case.