O/T Tommy Robinson Speaks About Manchester Terror Attack

[Acido]

Exactly Ellis D, I brought this up earlier on Tykesmad that Tommy Robinson and the Britain First campaigners regularly do this and show the extremists up for what they are.
Everything they say is proved to be right, but the police still treat them as the trouble causers.
What angers me the most about this though is when they tell our lot to get out of their country, and this is in places like Luton for example. They genuinely beleive what they preach and what they do isnt against our law, and that Britain is now their country.
It makes me sick and its got to stop, somehow.

[Ellis_D]

Exactly Ellis D, I brought this up earlier on Tykesmad that Tommy Robinson and the Britain First campaigners regularly do this and show the extremists up for what they are.
Everything they say is proved to be right, but the police still treat them as the trouble causers.
What angers me the most about this though is when they tell our lot to get out of their country, and this is in places like Luton for example. They genuinely beleive what they preach and what they do isnt against our law, and that Britain is now their country.
It makes me sick and its got to stop, somehow.

I worry it will go too far, and that it will be too late to stop it. The percentage of Muslims in Britain and other European countries increases every year. This is due to several factors: they have more children than us, they are converting people, especially in prisons, immigration, and under the context of being 'refugees'. Islam is spreading. That is the covert way they are doing it, they are also doing it with violence all across the world. The more non-Muslims they kill, the easier it will be for Muslims to take over.

Of course, Tommy Robinson, the EDL, Britain First, me, we are all just racists when we say things like this, despite everything else we have been saying having been proven to be true.

“But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” (9:5)

“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (9:29)

Just two of hundreds of violent passages in the Qur'an. Clear orders to fight anyone who is not a Muslim. This is the kind of passage that gives Islamic terrorists the justification for their evil deeds.

But still, you will find the apologists and liars making excuses. You will see absolute facking idiots like ex-President Obama saying it has nothing to do with Islam. It has EVERYTHING to do with Islam.

Until or unless the liberals and the liars open their eyes to what is happening, this country will become an Islamic one.

[Acido]

There was a massive case in Rotherham wasnt there about the grooming, and Im glad to see the Britain first team do regularly come up here to Yorkshire to protest against such things (Dewsbury is another place they visit).
And its good to see they get more local people each time who agree with their views and who are simply fed up with whats happening and being allowed to happen, and they want to see if anything can or will be done about it.

I didnt used to be like this but my tolerance levels have been battered over the years and Ive also had enough of it, and this latest despicable attack in Manchester is way way too much now. I dont advocate the horrible sounding ideas of the Bn*p and I dont know exactly what UKip's manifesto is away from the subject of immigration. But I am looking for answers, there must be something out there that we as a nation can look to, to stop this happening.

[Ellis_D]

There was a massive case in Rotherham wasnt there about the grooming, and Im glad to see the Britain first team do regularly come up here to Yorkshire to protest against such things (Dewsbury is another place they visit).
And its good to see they get more local people each time who agree with their views and who are simply fed up with whats happening and being allowed to happen, and they want to see if anything can or will be done about it.

I didnt used to be like this but my tolerance levels have been battered over the years and Ive also had enough of it, and this latest despicable attack in Manchester is way way too much now. I dont advocate the horrible sounding ideas of the Bn*p and I dont know exactly what UKip's manifesto is away from the subject of immigration. But I am looking for answers, there must be something out there that we as a nation can look to, to stop this happening.

There are PLENTY of people who I know, who could never be described as racist, right wing or extreme. People who have voted Labour their whole lives. But yet they are sick and tired of all the problems Islam brings, and sick and tired of politicians and the media making excuses for them. Liberal people also have a breaking point and many of these people have reached their limit. Enough is enough. People are sick and tired of it all.

[Yak]

If you say anything now your racist or divisive.

But blowing up innocent people isn't devisive.

Not all muslims are terrorists obviously but how many turn a blind eye to there own been radicalised?
More should be done by the Muslim community to show they really mean it talk is cheap we have enough politicians doing that.

[Acido]

There are PLENTY of people who I know, who could never be described as racist, right wing or extreme. People who have voted Labour their whole lives. But yet they are sick and tired of all the problems Islam brings, and sick and tired of politicians and the media making excuses for them. Liberal people also have a breaking point and many of these people have reached their limit. Enough is enough. People are sick and tired of it all.

Thats good to hear Ellis, at least it shows that even in an awful situation like this, we're all Brits and we're all (or at least most of us are) feeling the same way and are looking for something better than this.
Despite totally being sold up/down the river by our main politicians! And by the way, how many of them are going to cotton onto this attack and make it part of their serious manifesto all of a sudden!!

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

So due to this disaster all campaigning in the general election had been suspended.

Apart from the Labour supporter that posted a leaflet for MP John Healey through my letterbox today.

[PokerMillersSwinton]

There are PLENTY of people who I know, who could never be described as racist, right wing or extreme. People who have voted Labour their whole lives. But yet they are sick and tired of all the problems Islam brings, and sick and tired of politicians and the media making excuses for them. Liberal people also have a breaking point and many of these people have reached their limit. Enough is enough. People are sick and tired of it all.

I am one of those Ellis. I voted Labour since i was 18 best part of 25 years .But last time and this time i wont. I cannot justify voting for a party whos leader will weaken our country even more .And thereto with his mps forgot about all those kids in Rochdale and my town. I am at a loss of what can be done about ISLAM. Shut down the mosques never gunna happen do many people complaining about religious rights . Target people on the terrorist watch list is a start but then we have the human rights crew piping up . Till we get free from Europe and get some of our laws back nothing will come of this and another bombing will happen . It is really difficult to stop a bombing like this happening . Fa cup final and kell brooks fight at the weekend .Till the Royal family get hit or somebody with real importance it will be same drivel from people like the mayor of London come out with "its part of living in a big city" 100,000 Muslims where asked in a survey "would you tell on another Muslim if he has isis OR radical intentions" 66% said no because its in the Quran not to .How do you stop this when there getting brain washed by there own teachings?

[Ellis_D]

I am one of those Ellis. I voted Labour since i was 18 best part of 25 years .But last time and this time i wont. I cannot justify voting for a party whos leader will weaken our country even more .And thereto with his mps forgot about all those kids in Rochdale and my town. I am at a loss of what can be done about ISLAM. Shut down the mosques never gunna happen do many people complaining about religious rights . Target people on the terrorist watch list is a start but then we have the human rights crew piping up . Till we get free from Europe and get some of our laws back nothing will come of this and another bombing will happen . It is really difficult to stop a bombing like this happening . Fa cup final and kell brooks fight at the weekend .Till the Royal family get hit or somebody with real importance it will be same drivel from people like the mayor of London come out with "its part of living in a big city" 100,000 Muslims where asked in a survey "would you tell on another Muslim if he has isis OR radical intentions" 66% said no because its in the Quran not to .How do you stop this when there getting brain washed by there own teachings?

This scumbag was known as a potential terrorist. EVERY single person on this list should be rounded up, and either jailed indefinitely or deported, simple. B0llocks to their human rights. What about the human rights of all the people who died? What about the human rights of every innocent, decent man, woman and child in this country who deserves to live a free, safe life. I would actually string them up, never mind lock them up, but locking them up or deporting them will be a start.

And yes, 66% of Muslims said they would not grass up a fellow Muslim who supports ISIS. Because it's there in their facking book of evil. I don't want to hear people on here LYING anymore saying it's a minority - it's NOT a minority. If there was a civil war or a world war, almost EVERY Muslim would fight on their side, as it would be a holy jihad. It would be their religious responsibility.

It's like the liberals are so naive they think that if the day comes when Muslims take over, they will let them live and be free because they supported them. NO, they will still MAKE you convert to Islam, or die like the rest of us.

[KerrAvon]

This scumbag was known as a potential terrorist. EVERY single person on this list should be rounded up, and either jailed indefinitely or deported, simple. B0llocks to their human rights. What about the human rights of all the people who died? What about the human rights of every innocent, decent man, woman and child in this country who deserves to live a free, safe life. I would actually string them up, never mind lock them up, but locking them up or deporting them will be a start.

And yes, 66% of Muslims said they would not grass up a fellow Muslim who supports ISIS. Because it's there in their facking book of evil. I don't want to hear people on here LYING anymore saying it's a minority - it's NOT a minority. If there was a civil war or a world war, almost EVERY Muslim would fight on their side, as it would be a holy jihad. It would be their religious responsibility.

It's like the liberals are so naive they think that if the day comes when Muslims take over, they will let them live and be free because they supported them. NO, they will still MAKE you convert to Islam, or die like the rest of us.

I strongly disagree with you on the internment point, Eliis. It doesn't work. It merely adds to or creates a sense of injustice within the targeted community such as to create even more extremists. Furthermore, it causes the flow of intelligence from within those communities to dry up as those involved become more circumspect in what they say and informants to stop providing information.

There is a historical precedent to my opinion. Internment in Ireland turned pIRA from a bunch of hot heads with antique weapons into a well-armed, well-funded and well-trained organisation that was able to mount operations that narrowly missed out on killing two Prime Ministers.

As for disregarding human rights, you should be careful of what you wish for. If we allow people to be locked up at the whim of a civil servant and without due process, I doubt whether that would end with just people on Muslim watch lists.