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Thread: Rumours - summer signings

  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arab 8010 View Post
    Surely Taylor's job is to find/ recommended players for the manager to have a look at??? Manager gets the final say
    Yep but some people need a reason to moan about everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    Yep but some people need a reason to moan about everything
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    Yep but some people need a reason to moan about everything

    Extremely accurate

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    I just think people are a little impatient (myself included) to see new faces arriving as we all want the best possible team on the park.!!

    Hopefully things will start taking shape next week when the manager is back from holiday.. 🍻

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUNBOAT View Post
    If we are paying Taylor a wage and McKinnon is saying in the press that Darren has hardly spent any time with his family due to all the scouting work he is doing across the country why are we bringing in trialists?,if he is doing his job properly we dont need to bring in players on trial surely?.
    This serious?

    You expect the manager to sign players because his employee went to watch him a couple of times? Taylor's job is to do the donkey work and give his recommendations to the manager. McKinnon quite rightly wants to see the players for himself, see how they fit in with rest of players, assess wether they'll settle in Dundee etc.

    Baffles me how any United fan could share your attitude in the above post after McNamara handed out 2 and 3 year deals to duds like sweeties. Had we brought in the likes of Anier, Bodul, Bilate, Oyenuga etc on trial we might have avoided countless underwhelming performances and expensive pay offs.

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    Like many others I was critical of our signing policy in the past. Many like me posted that we needed tried and tested players - ie players who had played at SPL/Championship level and knew what was required. As opposed to taking punts on players who were a player once and would end up sitting in the Apex living out of a suitcase.

    So far, Rays first 3 signings fit the bill - Keatings Scobbie and King know what it's like to go to Dumbarton or Ayr on a freezing day or sheeting rain. Let's see if he follows this pattern with his next signings.

    One thing we badly need is a creative midfielder who can influence a game because recently we had no-one remotely close to being able to do that. Ideally Scottish, but if we can't get one in Scotland on our budget Thomson needs to up the budget and get one from elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly9 View Post
    This serious?

    You expect the manager to sign players because his employee went to watch him a couple of times? Taylor's job is to do the donkey work and give his recommendations to the manager. McKinnon quite rightly wants to see the players for himself, see how they fit in with rest of players, assess wether they'll settle in Dundee etc.

    Baffles me how any United fan could share your attitude in the above post after McNamara handed out 2 and 3 year deals to duds like sweeties. Had we brought in the likes of Anier, Bodul, Bilate, Oyenuga etc on trial we might have avoided countless underwhelming performances and expensive pay offs.
    I think it depends on the player. If he's been injury free and watched several times while playing last season then he could be an immediate signing. If he's borderline it's understandable that he might be invited to show off his paces before signing. So it's horses for courses.

    What concerns me a little is why wasn't Ray down south more often or at other Championship games when we were idle. Maybe he was, I've no idea, but if I was the coach I'd want to see the target myself playing in competitive matches before offering a trial or signing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    I think it depends on the player. If he's been injury free and watched several times while playing last season then he could be an immediate signing. If he's borderline it's understandable that he might be invited to show off his paces before signing. So it's horses for courses.

    What concerns me a little is why wasn't Ray down south more often or at other Championship games when we were idle. Maybe he was, I've no idea, but if I was the coach I'd want to see the target myself playing in competitive matches before offering a trial or signing him.
    Obviously it depends on the player which is why we've signed 3 without need for trial.

    The trialists obviously haven't played in Scotland before so it's prudent to assess them otherwise we'll likely end up with another Nicholls, Kuhl or Taggart.

    Why are you concerned about something you've just admitted to having no idea about? Of course he'll have been at games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly9 View Post
    Obviously it depends on the player which is why we've signed 3 without need for trial.

    The trialists obviously haven't played in Scotland before so it's prudent to assess them otherwise we'll likely end up with another Nicholls, Kuhl or Taggart.

    Why are you concerned about something you've just admitted to having no idea about? Of course he'll have been at games.
    I was just going on what was reported from Taylors interview Darren spent near two months watching games in England prior to last seasons end. Mentioned looking for attacking players with that 'brute strength'

    Which could be interpreted as Ray not being there. Which if it was true would concern me. I said I didn't know mate. Do you know which games Ray went to then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    I was just going on what was reported from Taylors interview Darren spent near two months watching games in England prior to last seasons end. Mentioned looking for attacking players with that 'brute strength'

    Which could be interpreted as Ray not being there. Which if it was true would concern me. I said I didn't know mate. Do you know which games Ray went to then?
    I'm not his PA. Can remember him saying on Arabzone he'd been down to England watching players though.

    You have to remember that we played Irn Bru cup games on international weekends and then our season was extended by play offs so obviously he couldn't go to as many as Taylor.

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