OT another terrorist attack.

[Ellis_D]

They could lie; but what I am querying is why you think that they might lie? What's in it for the hospital or school manager to tell a lie about food sources? Just trying to get this straight. Are you saying that the college might buy in non stunned halal meat and lie to a parent that that it has been stunned?

I don't understand why a school would do that? Why not just buy in RSPCA certified food and be clear in your policy (as schools and hospitals are) that that is what you are using?? If you can source 'genuinely' non stunned meat, I'm sure that it would be more expensive anyway.

So why would the school or hospital manager lie? I don't buy that the head/manager might not know - we have to have a transparent policy on catering/food arrangements for parents. I don't think it would occur to any school of hospital leader to buy the less available more expensive product.

Do you have the same suspicion of restaurants? They could buy in non ethical halal/non halal and totally mislead us. They would have much more insentive surely as they can maximise profits? So should we be suspicious of these too?

Not being picky or intentionally twisting words - I'm just trying to follow the logic of your reasoning.

I am working on the basis of which is cheaper. I would have thought - and could very well be wrong - that stunning before slaughter adds an extra cost. I may well be wrong. If I'm not wrong, I would expect the non-stunned meat to be cheaper.

In that case, the person responsible for buying meat at a school or hospital may well lie if asked by someone in order to stop any trouble arising. If the head/hospital staff think the person questioning about the meat may prefer it to be stunned first, they could quite easily lie and say it has been. We would have no proof either way.

[Ellis_D]

Anyway, you must be as bored of this conversation as I am by now? And I'm sure others are who are reading this back and forth about halal meat.

[ragingpup]

I am working on the basis of which is cheaper. I would have thought - and could very well be wrong - that stunning before slaughter adds an extra cost. I may well be wrong. If I'm not wrong, I would expect the non-stunned meat to be cheaper.

In that case, the person responsible for buying meat at a school or hospital may well lie if asked by someone in order to stop any trouble arising. If the head/hospital staff think the person questioning about the meat may prefer it to be stunned first, they could quite easily lie and say it has been. We would have no proof either way.

I agree that they could if there was evidence of non rspca food being considerably cheaper. But as the supply and demand on non stunned animals is quite small and therefore more 'niche', it is if anything more expensive. more a supply for the hardcore traditionalist Muslims!

Certainly never been a discussion in my experience of schools can*****. And as a vegan I'd be quite alert to it.

I notice from a quick search that the Mail and Sun have led with regular features on this topic over the last few years. Good old trad Brit seekers of truth and justice! Not a hidden agenda in sight :-)

[ragingpup]

Anyway, you must be as bored of this conversation as I am by now? And I'm sure others are who are reading this back and forth about halal meat.

Agreed...