Rangers Then, Sevco Now, Scotland's Shame Forever....

[Stupie82]

I'll complain about it, I'll make arguments about it, and I'll support any sensible attempt to rectify the damage that was done. What you're proposing, however, is a boycott of our own club to protest at something Rangers did. That's not effective action, it's not remotely sensible, and it's something that will only damage us and will do absolutely nothing to Rangers. You're welcome to do it, but at the moment you're more or less on a high horse pretending that anyone who doesn't join you in this folly doesn't care about Rangers cheating, which is a complete nonsense.

In my opinion, if the club chooses to do nothing, then they are as corrupt as Rangers. Any club that can sit back and accept that as okay doesnt deserve the backing of its fans, who spend there hard earned on seeing a competitive sport. All integrity was lost in the years they cheated and now AFC know that it was illegal, they should be doing everything they can to make sure that their fans are represented and that action is taken. If the SPFL then chose not to do it, then that isnt the clubs fault, but we should be pressuring them nonetheless.

Sitting back and just burying our head in the sand is why this happened in the first place. For too long there have been two clubs who have dictated the way our game is run, for me its time for the rest of the clubs to stand up and go against the grain.

[Mason89]

The best place to start would be with the national team. Unfortunately the overwhelming majority of the Tranny army don't follow club football, so won't be fussed about this in the slightest.

Milne should be representing our interests, as this directly affected us and the club. He won't bother his @rse though because it might upset the folk he likes cutting about with.

This won't end with anyone being satisfied with the outcome.

[RedStarTorphins]

The best place to start would be with the national team. Unfortunately the overwhelming majority of the Tranny army don't follow club football, so won't be fussed about this in the slightest.

Milne should be representing our interests, as this directly affected us and the club. He won't bother his @rse though because it might upset the folk he likes cutting about with.

This won't end with anyone being satisfied with the outcome.

Fan power forced folk like Milne to act before.
Why can't it work again?
it needs to be relentless, co-ordinated and consistent.

[Shinniesta3]

Fan power forced folk like Milne to act before.
Why can't it work again?
it needs to be relentless, co-ordinated and consistent.

If someone were to make up a letter template advising the club that if they don't make a stance on this and pressure the SFA to take action then the sender will not be renewing/buying a season ticket, not attending any games this & NEXT season.

Several thousand emails letters stating this might be enough to force the clubs hand to do something. And if every club's fans done likewise forcing their club to do the same it might just be enough to make the SFA do something.

It worked before so it can work again!

[Landvetter83]

If someone were to make up a letter template advising the club that if they don't make a stance on this and pressure the SFA to take action then the sender will not be renewing/buying a season ticket, not attending any games this & NEXT season.

Several thousand emails letters stating this might be enough to force the clubs hand to do something. And if every club's fans done likewise forcing their club to do the same it might just be enough to make the SFA do something.

It worked before so it can work again!

Below is the text of a letter I sent to Duncan Fraser as a starter for ten. If he receives hundreds or thousands of letters like this HE will not be doing HIS job if he doesn't act on our behalf.

Duncan Fraser,
Aberdeen Football Club,
Pittodrie Street,
Aberdeen, AB24 5QH

Dear Mr Fraser,

Now that the Supreme Court has ruled on the HMRC vs Rangers EBT Tax dispute it is clear that Rangers FC did indulge in illegal tax evasion. The inference from this ruling, from a sporting perspective, is that they gained an unfair advantage over other teams by acquiring “players they would not otherwise have been able to afford”. In plain words everyone can understand - they cheated!

In your position as an office bearer of Aberdeen FC and a member of the Professional Football Board it is fair to say you are in a position of influence within Scottish football. Therefore, I, as a Scottish Football “customer” who attended football matches during this period, am requesting that you consider taking the following actions:

1. Propose “no-confidence” motions on Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster as office bearers of their respective organisations. Their governance of Scottish football is totally compromised after this ruling. All of the events that have unfolded with respect to Rangers FC in the last 7 years have happened during their tenure and they have failed to provide the proper governance with respect to sporting integrity.
2. Propose that the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission ruling be declared void. There should be no need for a new commission - the Court of Session and Supreme Court have already made a decision that can be interpreted simply - they gained unfair sporting advantage by cheating.
3. Propose that an appropriate football penalty be imposed on Rangers FC. It’s worth noting that up until now no football penalty that I am aware of has been levied and paid as a result of Rangers’ mis-deeds. Under the 5-Way agreement from 2012 that allowed the new Rangers to regain access to the Scottish Football League; footballing liabilities transfer from Rangers FC to the new entity - Sevco Scotland Ltd - therefore the new club must be held to account.

The strength of my feeling on this matter is replicated in thousands of Aberdeen (and other clubs) fans and is not going to go away. Therefore, I ask that you to review Aberdeen FC’s position on this matter and have the courage to take the actions noted.

Yours sincerely .....

[Pacman1903]

I got a survey sent through from the Dons on why i havent renewed my season ticket. This was what i wrote for my reason...........

Up until the result of the Supreme Courts verdict on Rangers (1882-2012) and the illegal payments they made my official reason was laziness and I just hadn't got round to it. But.....

After hearing the deafening silence from the club in regards to the court ruling that the now out of buisiness Rangers FC illigitimatley won trophies(14 to be precise) this added to the astounding SFAs stance of no action, i.e title stripping of the now defunct club I really don't see why I should be putting my money into the Scottish game when corruption is clearly rife. We have effectively been told that cheaters will prosper in Scottish football. With the clubs silence on the matter it is apparent that they condone the acts of the defunct club and are not too interested in the fact that their fans paid their hard earned money during the years of cheating and were in all truth buying a ticket for an already drawn raffle. If the silence continues I for one will not be renewing and will most likely not return to Pittodrie or any other ground as the SFA are sweeping criminal activity and cheating under their ever lumpier carpet. With clubs taking the silent approach to this it tells us fans all we need to know where their clubs stand (barring Celtic). Any other country in world football would take action against a team that committed the disgusting acts carried out by a Rangers (1882-2012)

Is it fear of rocking the boat? If it is then it shows how far detached from the fans the clubs are as we want justice and we want it now. The clubs rocking the boat and demanding justice is exactly what is needed in these circumstances. It really should be 41 v 1 and the SFA. They should all b asking for justice and the resignation of Reagan and Doncaster and If nobody speaks up and excepts this bar one club then what is the point of Scottish football.

As a side note, the Dons Supporters Together statement has been well publicised so i dont believe for a second the club havent seen it and dont know their own fans feelings on this whole scandal yet decline to comment.

[The Trading Sheep]

I got a survey sent through from the Dons on why i havent renewed my season ticket. This was what i wrote for my reason...........

Up until the result of the Supreme Courts verdict on Rangers (1882-2012) and the illegal payments they made my official reason was laziness and I just hadn't got round to it. But.....

After hearing the deafening silence from the club in regards to the court ruling that the now out of buisiness Rangers FC illigitimatley won trophies(14 to be precise) this added to the astounding SFAs stance of no action, i.e title stripping of the now defunct club I really don't see why I should be putting my money into the Scottish game when corruption is clearly rife. We have effectively been told that cheaters will prosper in Scottish football. With the clubs silence on the matter it is apparent that they condone the acts of the defunct club and are not too interested in the fact that their fans paid their hard earned money during the years of cheating and were in all truth buying a ticket for an already drawn raffle. If the silence continues I for one will not be renewing and will most likely not return to Pittodrie or any other ground as the SFA are sweeping criminal activity and cheating under their ever lumpier carpet. With clubs taking the silent approach to this it tells us fans all we need to know where their clubs stand (barring Celtic). Any other country in world football would take action against a team that committed the disgusting acts carried out by a Rangers (1882-2012)

Is it fear of rocking the boat? If it is then it shows how far detached from the fans the clubs are as we want justice and we want it now. The clubs rocking the boat and demanding justice is exactly what is needed in these circumstances. It really should be 41 v 1 and the SFA. They should all b asking for justice and the resignation of Reagan and Doncaster and If nobody speaks up and excepts this bar one club then what is the point of Scottish football.

As a side note, the Dons Supporters Together statement has been well publicised so i dont believe for a second the club havent seen it and dont know their own fans feelings on this whole scandal yet decline to comment.

Pac, I got the same email last year after not renewing and said i thought the club was toothless in not proposing changes to the voting structure of the game etc etc. I put other stuff in about Rangers getting off so lightly. It won't surprise you that I got no response.

Our club does not seem interested in fighting for whats right, but what the fans want. "time to move on" I think was the phrase, I right...

[DonUnder]

Kidney machines that line the pockets of Huns?

Distasteful though it will be think to have any chance here we have to align ourselves with Smeltic. The enemy of my enemy and all that? All the other clubs have fck all clout and even less influence with the clowns at the SFA but if the other cheek threatens they will listen.

Of course we can Berlin airlift them afterwards and take a long hot shower.

In Demestos.

[NaeMairNeeps]

Ken fit? Ah'm glad somebody said it afore me.

If we consider far aboot in the league and cups oor beloved reds were in the period o' time the cheatin huns ****s were wanglin their 'competitive advantage', it would be a joke tae claim lost oot as a result.

Rasellick on the ither hand?

Apart fae comin second fan they arguably should hae been winners o league/cups, Victim FC have lost revenue in real terms ... TV money etc. If ma auld memory serves correctly, the points gap atween champions and runners up wis usually damn close .... but the difference in payoots wis massive!

Noo ... ye canna go pursuin the deid club, but if SFA/SPL/SPFL were complicit, then Rasellick would hae a good case tae say that they are owed these cash sums ... i.e. the difference atween what they recieved, and what they would/should hae recieved (TV money, difference atween competin in a diddy euro cup rether than Champions league etc.)

This would need tae be examined on a case by case (season by season, competition by competition) basis, but I reckon even the slightest 'competitive advantage could be shown tae have cost Rasellick hard cash!

As Ah said, they canna sue the deid club, but ... it's a bit like yer work, or the bank, payin yer wages intae somebody elses account ... if it's nae your mistake, yer work/bank sorts it oot in your favour.

If the powers that be are complicit, then they are liable and should be pursued.

Dinna get me wrang .... Ah have nae wish tae see Rasellick get mair money than the ****loads they already have ... ffs, they already have that 'competitive advantage' athoot gaein them mair ..... but, if ye want tae get it right up the authorities/the establishment, then maybe ye should be encouragin ... even supportin Timmy tae tak the lead. It disna preclude any ither action/idea folks might think worth pursuin, but in my opinion, this ane is the dog that barks loudest ... and has he teeth as weel as the legs tae back it up.

[awafaehame]

Ken fit? Ah'm glad somebody said it afore me.

If the powers that be are complicit, then they are liable and should be pursued.

See the banners of Doncaster and Regan that were asked to be taken down last night at Arbroath? What if at our first home game, we made huge ones of these, to go either sides of the goals in our first home game?

If they wouldn't be let in due to their size and AFC being like the fvcking Hitler Youth at times, what about making loads of the same sized ones, maybe like 50 or 100, so that as soon as one gets taken down by stewards, another two pop up, and so on?

The hypocrisy of this is just disgusting, mark my words, if this had been us that had done this, it wouldn't have went past the first hearing, never mind bothering the Supreme Court.