Go and treat yourself to a permit for Ravenfield ponds Brin,you wont be disappointed mate...On the point of Jack Grice bus are you getting mistaken for Gordons that used to run fishing trips through 60s 70s every sunday morning to Crowland (river welland) you could drop off at Winthorpe Bridge (river trent) or market deeping,then be picked up at same point on return trip, great days out for about 7/6d if i remember correctly, then through winter months they went up North Yorks dropping off on the Swale at cundall then on to Butterwick (river rye) close to flamingo zoo. Happy days. Oh bye the way once tried fly fishing and caught a 3lb bluebottle.