O/T........ It just never, ever seems to stop

[Drowse]

Kin ell, Tarquin's post.

I don't give a monkeys if you and your granddads were in the SAS, if you hold Nazi type views, that makes you a Nazi. Own it.

My grandad was in the old IRA fighting against the Black and Tans who went round Ireland beating up women and kids. That's one episode from British military history you won't hear talked about on Remembrance Day.

Obviously the Black & Tans didn't beat you lot hard enough.

[upthemaggies]

Just googled what you are talking about so I could make an informed reply but have to admit I have no idea . Maybe it would have to be a far more intelligent person ( big fat ******* springs to mind ) than me.

Wot I meant was, religion - for all of its' many faults, was the glue that held families, society and the whole country together, something that was built up over many centuries. Following the publication of "The Origin of Species" in 1859, coming on the back of the industrial revolution, religion was swiftly displaced with a doctrine of "Every man for himself".
Darwin was right in what he had to say about evolution, of course, but that was used as an excuse to do a complete 180 and indulge in all-out greed resulting in the situation we have today, a nation of alcoholics and pill-addicts, an emasculated male population with the females duped into believing that equality equals adopting the very worst aspects of maleness rather than asserting their own femininity. Britian is now a walk in the park for Islam, there's noting else left to oppose the cancer of capitialism. Nobody wants Islam, but nobody wants to do anything to stop it either. "Tolerance" is a joke, you can't just tolerate something like Islam, ultimately you acceot it or you reject it, but we now have nothing to reject it with.

[Drowse]

No, you're not a Nazi, Drowsy, you just think like one.

Not at all Sidders, I think like a British man, proud to, just as an Arab thinks like an Arab,a Muslim thinks like a muslim, etc .... etc..... you know the saying about quacking & ducks.

My difference is I would stay in my country and fight for it, just like my predecessors, there the similarity ends, Muslims flee their homes & country because they don't possess the backbone to protect what they have, they move to "soft" options & try to populate.....and rule.

I have no problem whatsoever my country offering help to anyone, anywhere in the world,even take in a few that are in desperate medical need, where I do draw the line is being invaded by the same, which is what the United Kingdom & Europe is bang in the middle of at this moment, with a real danger of the British way of life, you know the one that supposedly (draws them here) is under threat.

[BigFatPie]

Obviously the Black & Tans didn't beat you lot hard enough.

Sounds like you've taken one too many beatings you cabbage.

By the way Rumpole, still waiting for Trump to sue me haha.

[Drowse]

Sounds like you've taken one too many beatings you cabbage.

By the way Rumpole, still waiting for Trump to sue me haha.

Martin Mcguinness rotting in hell, only 1 ex chief spud picker left, he'll soon be joining the other.

3 cheers for Winston Churchill.

[seriouspie]

Did my 22 (1970 - 1992). Met some bad buggers, some slobs and some very good men (got out before women joined major units, thank heavens).
Peace is a wonderful thing but it allows people to forget and belittle.

O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' " Tommy, go away " ;
But it's " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's " Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play.

Still true today and I guess will always be so while people take their safety and well being (on a national level) for granted.

Very true verse Smiffy - I hadn't heard it before. I've just been reading BFP's remarks concerning the Black & Tans. In a way he has a point as from what I can gather they weren't the best of volunteers but then again the IRA weren't and still aren't angels. I imagine you were serving during the IRA London bombings and the horrendous atrocities including the Regents Park blast. Nice lot these IRA wallahs eh!! Many of the younger generation will never know what patriotism, respect and decency is all about. Have edited this as just seen your latest reply. Aye, Martin Mcguinness - the friend of Corbyn - a pity the SAS lads didn't nail him a few years earlier but were restrained.

[BigFatPie]

Martin Mcguinness rotting in hell, only 1 ex chief spud picker left, he'll soon be joining the other.

3 cheers for Winston Churchill.

Why are you quoting provos at me? They've got f all to with the old IRA I was talking about.

The irony of your post which you'll no doubt miss is that cabbage Brexiteers like you have done more to progress the cause of a united Ireland than 40 years of terrorism ever did.

[sidders]

Not at all Sidders, I think like a British man, proud to, just as an Arab thinks like an Arab,a Muslim thinks like a muslim, etc .... etc..... you know the saying about quacking & ducks.

My difference is I would stay in my country and fight for it, just like my predecessors, there the similarity ends, Muslims flee their homes & country because they don't possess the backbone to protect what they have, they move to "soft" options & try to populate.....and rule.

I have no problem whatsoever my country offering help to anyone, anywhere in the world,even take in a few that are in desperate medical need, where I do draw the line is being invaded by the same, which is what the United Kingdom & Europe is bang in the middle of at this moment, with a real danger of the British way of life, you know the one that supposedly (draws them here) is under threat.

Drowsy, I'm British too but I don't think at all like you. In the above response from you is proof of the pudding.
Nazis were encouraged to think of their world in black and white, no nuancing. Make a swift judgment and don't pause to consider the other person's case.
You say an Arab thinks like an Arab as though there is one profile that fits all. Wrong! Saudi royalty shares very little with Palestinians in Israel. A Muslim like the Mayor of London has almost nothing in common with Al Baghdadi.
Muslims flee their home because of atrocities by other Muslims. Don't you know anything about the divisions within Islam? They flee because they have no means to fight back against a weaponised enemy that is prepared to mercilessly annihilate. With what do they fight back?
Ah, you will say, that's not our fault. But it is, you see. Only the Americans can come close to Britain in terms of screwing up the Middle East with their interfering. But your nationalism prevents you from seeing the situation from any but a British POV.
And what is 'the British way of life'? Does it involve roast beef and Yorkshires on a Sunday? Attending church on a weekly basis? Men opening the door for ladies? Tipping your hat to the local dignitaries?

[JoePass]

Drowsy, I'm British too but I don't think at all like you. In the above response from you is proof of the pudding.
Nazis were encouraged to think of their world in black and white, no nuancing. Make a swift judgment and don't pause to consider the other person's case.
You say an Arab thinks like an Arab as though there is one profile that fits all. Wrong! Saudi royalty shares very little with Palestinians in Israel. A Muslim like the Mayor of London has almost nothing in common with Al Baghdadi.
Muslims flee their home because of atrocities by other Muslims. Don't you know anything about the divisions within Islam? They flee because they have no means to fight back against a weaponised enemy that is prepared to mercilessly annihilate. With what do they fight back?
Ah, you will say, that's not our fault. But it is, you see. Only the Americans can come close to Britain in terms of screwing up the Middle East with their interfering. But your nationalism prevents you from seeing the situation from any but a British POV.
And what is 'the British way of life'? Does it involve roast beef and Yorkshires on a Sunday? Attending church on a weekly basis? Men opening the door for ladies? Tipping your hat to the local dignitaries?

In other news, it's Saturday today, come on you Piesssssssss.

[seriouspie]

Drowsy, I'm British too but I don't think at all like you. In the above response from you is proof of the pudding.
Nazis were encouraged to think of their world in black and white, no nuancing. Make a swift judgment and don't pause to consider the other person's case.
You say an Arab thinks like an Arab as though there is one profile that fits all. Wrong! Saudi royalty shares very little with Palestinians in Israel. A Muslim like the Mayor of London has almost nothing in common with Al Baghdadi.
Muslims flee their home because of atrocities by other Muslims. Don't you know anything about the divisions within Islam? They flee because they have no means to fight back against a weaponised enemy that is prepared to mercilessly annihilate. With what do they fight back?
Ah, you will say, that's not our fault. But it is, you see. Only the Americans can come close to Britain in terms of screwing up the Middle East with their interfering. But your nationalism prevents you from seeing the situation from any but a British POV.
And what is 'the British way of life'? Does it involve roast beef and Yorkshires on a Sunday? Attending church on a weekly basis? Men opening the door for ladies? Tipping your hat to the local dignitaries?

And.......giving your seat to an older person on a bus if all others taken ......and walking on the outside if accompanying a lady along a pavement ....... and being proud of all our servicemen and women ........ all part of British etiquette - a thing not known by many of today's Brits.