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Thread: Yesterday's performance.

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    Yesterday's performance.

    It's only my opinion, but I don't think that we can continue to go into games with three defensive mid-fielders. For all but the last 15-20 minutes we were very poor. We showed little inclination to push forward and to my mind were completely outplayed by Brighton. As soon as Morrison, Burke and Gibbs came on we looked far more threatening. If Nyom is in the side he must play right back, where he is far more effective, with Gibbs at left back. Sadly, Rondon is a shadow of the player he was when he first arrived and has to make way. I would also find a place for Brunt in the side as we missed his delivery. Hopefully, it was just a 'bad day at the office' as even Foster and Evans were below par.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    It's only my opinion, but I don't think that we can continue to go into games with three defensive mid-fielders. For all but the last 15-20 minutes we were very poor. We showed little inclination to push forward and to my mind were completely outplayed by Brighton. As soon as Morrison, Burke and Gibbs came on we looked far more threatening. If Nyom is in the side he must play right back, where he is far more effective, with Gibbs at left back. Sadly, Rondon is a shadow of the player he was when he first arrived and has to make way. I would also find a place for Brunt in the side as we missed his delivery. Hopefully, it was just a 'bad day at the office' as even Foster and Evans were below par.
    Pretty much spot on. Maybe TP felt it was too soon for Gibbs, well then play Brunt there as in previous matches, not Nyom who is decent enough at right back but can be catastrophic at left back. The lad gives his all but you can see why Watford didn't use him regularly.
    We hat let in one goal in 3 league games. Evans should not have been given a recall, captain or not.
    Phillips is better on the right, putting him on the left nullified him yesterday. Brunt, McClean, Morrison would all do better.
    Rodriguez is a striker. If we want to play him as a midfielder then it has to be as an attacking central midfielder not a winger. Wasted out there and we have better for the job (Phillips, Burke).
    Rondon hasn't been much cop but no striker could have coped yesterday with no decent crosses arriving, no support from central midfield when the ball has been hoofed to him, no chance.
    Look how better it got when the substitutions were made and the team became balanced.
    All the problems yesterday were down to TP's tactics and team selection, nothing else. Will he learn from it?
    Let me add, we got away with it in the first 3 games. Undoubtedly defended well, but hardly created anything. In all 4 games I feel if we had gone for it more, played in the opposing half, then we would quite possibly have 12 points now.
    However, as I'm sure Al will point out, I don't go to the games so I know nothing.
    One more thing, I don't expect us to play like Barcelona. I expect us to go out and try to win games, create chances and score goals. Rather like Brighton did yesterday, though I doubt opposition will allow us run the game like we let them do so.

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    Having been able to go to my first live match for years yesterday, this is how I saw our performance.

    Foster - Had a very poor game from time he fumbled first shot and probably at fault for 2 goals. I hope age is not catching up with him now.
    Dawson - Did his job ok
    Hegazi - Solid but scares me when he dwells on ball, nearly got caught out again yesterday.
    Evans - Not his best game but maybe still got hangover from celebrating early in week
    Nyom - Needs to get update to sat nav. Often caught out of position when played on both sides. Looked more effective going forward but didn't track back quick enough after losing possession.
    Livermore - I only noticed he was playing when he got substituted in second half. Can't see what he brings to the table.
    Barry - Another good solid performance and unlucky with great shot in first half.
    Krychowiak - Looked a class act in first half. Second half not so good but maybe he tired or thought what was he doing playing with this bunch of t*****rs.
    Phillips - Hugged the touch line but proved relatively ineffective. Easily shrugged off ball.
    Rodriguez - Sulked having to play out the flank. Didn't get much better though when he became more central.
    Rondon - Can't explain this performance because we are before the watershed. Maybe we could offer the Chinese the money to take him off our hands.
    Gibbs - Team looked more balanced when he came on. Early days but if he stays injury free will be a good aquasition.
    Blake - Looked very promising being prepared to run at the opposition. Maybe overdid it a bit but he excites me. Maybe won't get a game because nobody will be able to keep up with him.
    Morrison - Did his job when coming on and might have had a second goal with more composure.

    MOM - That award has to go the travelling support who sung their hearts out even when things were bleak. Let's hope Pulis sends them all a stick of Brighton rock for their efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmleighchris View Post
    Pretty much spot on. Maybe TP felt it was too soon for Gibbs, well then play Brunt there as in previous matches, not Nyom who is decent enough at right back but can be catastrophic at left back. The lad gives his all but you can see why Watford didn't use him regularly.
    We hat let in one goal in 3 league games. Evans should not have been given a recall, captain or not.
    Phillips is better on the right, putting him on the left nullified him yesterday. Brunt, McClean, Morrison would all do better.
    Rodriguez is a striker. If we want to play him as a midfielder then it has to be as an attacking central midfielder not a winger. Wasted out there and we have better for the job (Phillips, Burke).
    Rondon hasn't been much cop but no striker could have coped yesterday with no decent crosses arriving, no support from central midfield when the ball has been hoofed to him, no chance.
    Look how better it got when the substitutions were made and the team became balanced.
    All the problems yesterday were down to TP's tactics and team selection, nothing else. Will he learn from it?
    Let me add, we got away with it in the first 3 games. Undoubtedly defended well, but hardly created anything. In all 4 games I feel if we had gone for it more, played in the opposing half, then we would quite possibly have 12 points now.
    However, as I'm sure Al will point out, I don't go to the games so I know nothing.
    One more thing, I don't expect us to play like Barcelona. I expect us to go out and try to win games, create chances and score goals. Rather like Brighton did yesterday, though I doubt opposition will allow us run the game like we let them do so.
    Bang on mate. Read my post in the match thread before a ball was kicked . This bloke will not play football. He never has and he never will. His team selections are baffling. We actually looked balanced in the first half against Bournemouth with Brunt and McClean on the left.
    I'm not saying Pulis should be gone after one bad game. I've been saying it for the past twelve months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TipperaryBaggie View Post
    Having been able to go to my first live match for years yesterday, this is how I saw our performance.

    Foster - Had a very poor game from time he fumbled first shot and probably at fault for 2 goals. I hope age is not catching up with him now.
    Dawson - Did his job ok
    Hegazi - Solid but scares me when he dwells on ball, nearly got caught out again yesterday.
    Evans - Not his best game but maybe still got hangover from celebrating early in week
    Nyom - Needs to get update to sat nav. Often caught out of position when played on both sides. Looked more effective going forward but didn't track back quick enough after losing possession.
    Livermore - I only noticed he was playing when he got substituted in second half. Can't see what he brings to the table.
    Barry - Another good solid performance and unlucky with great shot in first half.
    Krychowiak - Looked a class act in first half. Second half not so good but maybe he tired or thought what was he doing playing with this bunch of t*****rs.
    Phillips - Hugged the touch line but proved relatively ineffective. Easily shrugged off ball.
    Rodriguez - Sulked having to play out the flank. Didn't get much better though when he became more central.
    Rondon - Can't explain this performance because we are before the watershed. Maybe we could offer the Chinese the money to take him off our hands.
    Gibbs - Team looked more balanced when he came on. Early days but if he stays injury free will be a good aquasition.
    Blake - Looked very promising being prepared to run at the opposition. Maybe overdid it a bit but he excites me. Maybe won't get a game because nobody will be able to keep up with him.
    Morrison - Did his job when coming on and might have had a second goal with more composure.

    MOM - That award has to go the travelling support who sung their hearts out even when things were bleak. Let's hope Pulis sends them all a stick of Brighton rock for their efforts.
    Good thread but who's Blake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmeras View Post
    Good thread but who's Blake
    Blake, Burke, it doesn't matter much. I doubt we will see much of him, he hasn't a defensive bone in his body.
    Reminds me of Leko, only bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmleighchris View Post
    Pretty much spot on. Maybe TP felt it was too soon for Gibbs, well then play Brunt there as in previous matches, not Nyom who is decent enough at right back but can be catastrophic at left back. The lad gives his all but you can see why Watford didn't use him regularly.
    We hat let in one goal in 3 league games. Evans should not have been given a recall, captain or not.
    Phillips is better on the right, putting him on the left nullified him yesterday. Brunt, McClean, Morrison would all do better.
    Rodriguez is a striker. If we want to play him as a midfielder then it has to be as an attacking central midfielder not a winger. Wasted out there and we have better for the job (Phillips, Burke).
    Rondon hasn't been much cop but no striker could have coped yesterday with no decent crosses arriving, no support from central midfield when the ball has been hoofed to him, no chance.
    Look how better it got when the substitutions were made and the team became balanced.
    All the problems yesterday were down to TP's tactics and team selection, nothing else. Will he learn from it?
    Let me add, we got away with it in the first 3 games. Undoubtedly defended well, but hardly created anything. In all 4 games I feel if we had gone for it more, played in the opposing half, then we would quite possibly have 12 points now.
    However, as I'm sure Al will point out, I don't go to the games so I know nothing.
    One more thing, I don't expect us to play like Barcelona. I expect us to go out and try to win games, create chances and score goals. Rather like Brighton did yesterday, though I doubt opposition will allow us run the game like we let them do so.

    Never said you know nothing as quite the opposite - your posts are very constructive and points very valid, even though at times you are harsh on TP. As for never going to the games - well from time to time, I have a spare ticket so do you want me to offer one to you when I have one? It would only cost you a pint!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Never said you know nothing as quite the opposite - your posts are very constructive and points very valid, even though at times you are harsh on TP. As for never going to the games - well from time to time, I have a spare ticket so do you want me to offer one to you when I have one? It would only cost you a pint!
    I'll tell you what Al, I'll take you up on that. It will have to be a Saturday afternoon game though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmleighchris View Post
    I'll tell you what Al, I'll take you up on that. It will have to be a Saturday afternoon game though.

    Will make a mental note!

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    Can I have one too Al. Need to get yesterday's performance out of my system!

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