Cashless turnstiles

[ancientpie]

I expect the cash kiosk is an interim measure on the way to going fully cashless with electronic turnstiles, which is becoming the norm. The advantages of which are reduced fraud risk, reduced bank charges and reduced wage bill.

You are probably correct but until it happens why not retain a cash turnstile? I am not at all sure about the "reduced fraud risk" as I don't know of anyone who pays full price at Mansfield & if you are going to employ enough staff to check every ticket there will be very little in the way of a "reduced wage bill", any business can set up an account that doesn't charge for cash deposits & unless we go completely cash free at our catering outlets I would be very surprised if we haven't got this facility.

[tripie]

You are probably correct but until it happens why not retain a cash turnstile? I am not at all sure about the "reduced fraud risk" as I don't know of anyone who pays full price at Mansfield & if you are going to employ enough staff to check every ticket there will be very little in the way of a "reduced wage bill", any business can set up an account that doesn't charge for cash deposits & unless we go completely cash free at our catering outlets I would be very surprised if we haven't got this facility.

Staff don't check the tickets, the machine does. It shows a green light for a full price ticket, an orange light for a concession and a red light if it's a dodgy ticket. You just need one steward for every four turnstiles which are already there anyway.

Bank charges for cash deposits are very high. Which bank offers them free, I think you are wrong about that? Plus I expect we have to have cash counting machines or pay staff to count, put money into bags and reconcile to gate counts and then pay someone like G4S to collect and bank the takings. It's an expensive business dealing with cash.

[ancientpie]

Staff don't check the tickets, the machine does. It shows a green light for a full price ticket, an orange light for a concession and a red light if it's a dodgy ticket. You just need one steward for every four turnstiles which are already there anyway.

Bank charges for cash deposits are very high. Which bank offers them free, I think you are wrong about that? Plus I expect we have to have cash counting machines or pay staff to count, put money into bags and reconcile to gate counts and then pay someone like G4S to collect and bank the takings. It's an expensive business dealing with cash.

One Steward for four turnstiles at Stags must cost them a fortune as I know "youngish" fans that get in with juvenile tickets & "oldish" fans that get in with seniors! I'm not certain if it is still the same but 7 years ago when I was in business the Nat West charged for cash deposits unless you agreed otherwise,most businesses that dealt mainly in cash negotiated a deal. I would think that with the cash taken on Programmes, food, drink, club shop etc we already pay someone like G45, please don't underestimate the cost of extra staff in the ticket office, the kiosks, the potential loss of even 10 or 20 fans & we are still employing turnstile staff. As I have posted before, if & when I can see logic & savings I will see the point in this but until then why not make it as easy as possible for all fans to attend?

[tripie]

One Steward for four turnstiles at Stags must cost them a fortune as I know "youngish" fans that get in with juvenile tickets & "oldish" fans that get in with seniors! I'm not certain if it is still the same but 7 years ago when I was in business the Nat West charged for cash deposits unless you agreed otherwise,most businesses that dealt mainly in cash negotiated a deal. I would think that with the cash taken on Programmes, food, drink, club shop etc we already pay someone like G45, please don't underestimate the cost of extra staff in the ticket office, the kiosks, the potential loss of even 10 or 20 fans & we are still employing turnstile staff. As I have posted before, if & when I can see logic & savings I will see the point in this but until then why not make it as easy as possible for all fans to attend?

Believe me, I work for a business that has a lot of cash takings. It costs a fortune to administer hence we are doing everything we can to move as many income streams onto cashless systems as quickly as we can. I haven't even got onto forgery and the relatively excessive administration costs of employing people to work for two hours a fortnight for 38 weeks of the year.