That ones down to Wilder.

[Carpe_diem]

My guess is that other teams are starting to figure us out a bit more than they had before, and so different changes were needed if we wanted to keep them on the back foot. We're clearly a bit frail defensively now so the best form of defence, IMO, is attack. I'm not going to vilify Tufty for trying something different,as much as losing the point hurts.
Also Donaldson scored twice on his debut, so it could all have been very different. Like Gray says, fine margins. We're still learning and developing and growing, particularly as we've lost the heart of the team in Coutts.

[BlockD]

That's what Christopher does,he goes for the win,he has told us numerous times that is his philosophy,that's the type of manager he is,

[CHIPBUTTYBLADE]

You do if you’re a manager like Carloss. Enjoy the ride Chippy FFS.

Whats Carloss got to do with what i posted and SBT and LST above,but you choose to have a dig at me with the.... FFS.

I'll say again,Wilder blundered and cost us a point with the gung ho substitutions.

Please dont patronise me again Gray with.. "Enjoy the ride Chippy FFS".

[CHIPBUTTYBLADE]

That's what Christopher does,he goes for the win,he has told us numerous times that is his philosophy,that's the type of manager he is,

Its wonderful to have a manager like that,compared to rabble (Adkins) we had to endure before Wilder,but he has to temper the win win attitude sometimes and last nite with 10 men and 10 mins to go that was it.

Im as depressed as i have ever felt,not with Wilder not with the players,just how football can suddenly be a hard pill to swallow i'm going back to Coutts getting injured and the following games.

And why is it every team we are playing at home recently who have all been battered get a goal against the run of play scored from outside the box with a screamer,Hull,Reading,Fulham,Birmingham and now Bristol.

[Longshortandtall]

Last night we didn't miss Coutts. Lundstram, Fleck and Duffy had bossed the midfield and we were played some of the best football of the season the 15 minutes after half time so the we can't play without Coutts myth was put to bed. Thats the one positive for me out of last night.

Our game management cost us a point as it did against Fulham CW admitting himself he got that one wrong. No problem in trying to win games and try to put the opposition on the back foot even with ten men but the substitutions were the wrong ones and totally unbalanced the team. We move onto the next game.

[BlockD]

Its wonderful to have a manager like that,compared to rabble (Adkins) we had to endure before Wilder,but he has to temper the win win attitude sometimes and last nite with 10 men and 10 mins to go that was it.

Im as depressed as i have ever felt,not with Wilder not with the players,just how football can suddenly be a hard pill to swallow i'm going back to Coutts getting injured and the following games.

And why is it every team we are playing at home recently who have all been battered get a goal against the run of play scored from outside the box with a screamer,Hull,Reading,Fulham,Birmingham and now Bristol.

It is wonderful to have him as manager,if he started settling for draws he would be going against all his principles,I for one never want him to change,and yes it's incredibly ferking frustrated every long ranger flies into our net

[GrayBlade]

Whats Carloss got to do with what i posted and SBT and LST above,but you choose to have a dig at me with the.... FFS.

I'll say again,Wilder blundered and cost us a point with the gung ho substitutions.

Please dont patronise me again Gray with.. "Enjoy the ride Chippy FFS".

What the **** are you on about? I was replying to the ‘sometimes take what you already have and protect it’, and I likened it to what the Pigs are putting up with. If you look on S2 I said exactly the same thing and on the thread that I started, that wasn’t aimed at you or anybody in particular and saying that you should should just enjoy the ride is basically what I’ve said to everyone on there and on here including SBT and LST so I’ve no idea where you’re coming from pal.

Right now I’m going through a rough time apart from United’s form with a close family member who’s not expect to make it to Christmas, I know others on here will have similar problems and who knows what issues you have. I personally think it puts things in perspective mate and so I refuse to transfer my current personal misery to United and I genuinely believe that we should all enjoy the ride, in my case win or lose it’s miles better than I expected and so I can live with it.

But you can be sure that I won’t pander to or joke about your continuous negativity again. It obviously makes you uncomfortable when I genuinely thought it was just a bit of crack and your own brand of ‘reverse psychology’. Life’s way too short pal and to be honest it doesn’t do me much good either. UTB

[CHIPBUTTYBLADE]

It is wonderful to have him as manager,if he started settling for draws he would be going against all his principles,I for one never want him to change,and yes it's incredibly ferking frustrated every long ranger flies into our net

He wont ever be a manager that settles for "draws" as in sets his stall out from the first minute to "not lose" thats a sh1t boring way to play football,but if we had got a draw last nite with the great way we played and from the situation we were in with ten men,he would have had a lot more praise.

[CHIPBUTTYBLADE]

What the **** are you on about? I was replying to the ‘sometimes take what you already have and protect it’, and I likened it to what the Pigs are putting up with. If you look on S2 I said exactly the same thing and on the thread that I started, that wasn’t aimed at you or anybody in particular and saying that you should should just enjoy the ride is basically what I’ve said to everyone on there and on here including SBT and LST so I’ve no idea where you’re coming from pal.

Right now I’m going through a rough time apart from United’s form with a close family member who’s not expect to make it to Christmas, I know others on here will have similar problems and who knows what issues you have. I personally think it puts things in perspective mate and so I refuse to transfer my current personal misery to United and I genuinely believe that we should all enjoy the ride, in my case win or lose it’s miles better than I expected and so I can live with it.

But you can be sure that I won’t pander to or joke about your continuous negativity again. It obviously makes you uncomfortable when I genuinely thought it was just a bit of crack and your own brand of ‘reverse psychology’. Life’s way too short pal and to be honest it doesn’t do me much good either. UTB

Now you are swearing at me Gray,as well as the FFS

I dont do continuous negatiity thats just how you are seeing my post's,i can be critical if i want its what forums are all about.

We all see games differently and various aspects of it,i like what i read when you post,you know that.

Lets just put this little ruck behind us.

I really hope you can be strong for yourself and your family member Gray.

[GrayBlade]

Now you are swearing at me Gray,as well as the FFS

I dont do continuous negatiity thats just how you are seeing my post's,i can be critical if i want its what forums are all about.

We all see games differently and various aspects of it,i like what i read when you post,you know that.

Lets just put this little ruck behind us.

I really hope you can be strong for yourself and your family member Gray.

Cheers Chippy.