Trust chair to stand down

[PortugueseFrank]

Correct, they asked the questions and were given a bull**** politicians response.

As the "3rd largest shareholder" what did they do to challenge the answers they received?

What have they done since this Q&A as the club has slipped to unprecedented lows??

They publicly called on the Dundee United board, ST and everyone to resign their positions.

I'd call that action. Wouldn't you?

[PortugueseFrank]

As far as I'm aware, it was the Trust that obtained and released the information about JM's contract clause regarding sales of players.

I thought it was an anonymous letter to the fed?

[Danny_Dyer]

They publicly called on the Dundee United board, ST and everyone to resign their positions.

I'd call that action. Wouldn't you?

Considering the board laughed at them i'd say not.

What have they done specifically in the last 3 years? (outwith making hats and gloves obviously).

[PortugueseFrank]

It's not good enough for them to publicly call for wholesale resignations of the board etc in 2016? Within the three years you speak of?

Im beggining to get the impression that you would find it hard to give the trust any credit on anything.

And perhaps that speaks to a wider issue?

Not specifically with you DD but I think it's fair to say that there is a long-standing animosity towards the trust from certain sections of the support.

Maybe then the question should be put to yourself DD and others who can't acknowledge the trust questioning and calling for change at Tannadice, why not put yourself forward for the trust and have it "as the third largest shareholder" do the things you think it should be doing?

What would be the things you'd do if you ran the trust?

[TerryTheTerror]

I thought it was an anonymous letter to the fed?

That's the rumour but I've never seen this thing. I first heard of it from a then ArabTrust board member.

[TerryTheTerror]

You won't get any sense it of DD by the way. What exactly the trust were meant to do, above what they actually did, is a mystery to me.

[PortugueseFrank]

I find it baffling.

"You guys in group x are pricks because you don't do what I want you to do.

But I'm not going to stand for election or put any effort other than moaning about you and calling you names because you should do what I want anyway"

How can you complain about a group if you aren't willing to do anything about it despite apparently feel so strongly about the issues?

I have pals at other club's fan groups and apparently it's a common phenomenon.

The club's long term future is on the line but an unhealthy amount of energy is directed in anger at a relatively uninfluential group of volunteer fans instead of being channelled to achieve a better future for the club.

It's scapegoating and it lets the real problem people off the hook.

[SmedDUm]

I find it baffling.

"You guys in group x are pricks because you don't do what I want you to do.

But I'm not going to stand for election or put any effort other than moaning about you and calling you names because you should do what I want anyway"

How can you complain about a group if you aren't willing to do anything about it despite apparently feel so strongly about the issues?

I have pals at other club's fan groups and apparently it's a common phenomenon.

The club's long term future is on the line but an unhealthy amount of energy is directed in anger at a relatively uninfluential group of volunteer fans instead of being channelled to achieve a better future for the club.

It's scapegoating and it lets the real problem people off the hook.

Devil's Advocate.
Perhaps some complainers feel far removed from attaining any position of influence on any group & so are frustrated PF?

[TerryTheTerror]

Simpler than that Smed.

It's easier to say than do.

[PortugueseFrank]

If people want things to happen then all they have to is put themselves forward.

Be the change you want to see and all that.