Takeover back on

[pboromag]

for me, it's twist rather than stick although 'rather than' gives the wrong impression as i don't think we've got a choice.

Under ashley we will never progress. He's not interested in moving the club forward, he's only interested in gambling on our survival. Relegated twice in 10 years and coming close on a number of other occasions and it'll catch up with us again sooner rather than later. Rafa getting a tune out of these players is a remarkable achievement-a hughes/pardew/lambert/mcclaren etc would have them bottom-but i think he'll be off if ashley stays.

If we want even a chance of progressing he has to go.

your wrong about the players
heres my reasoning be hind that
rafa had most these players and took us down
why because he pplayed negative defensive footy ,which when you needed points as we did we needed to be more positive .under him then we werent

i still think that if rafa hadnt been more positive like he is now we would have gonde down

my point being these lads played to their stregnths are a top 10-12 team at least .not fizzy as some would say

we kept saying pardew pardewed them
so basically we were saying they are better than he is making them

but under rafa untill recently they were as good as when pardew managed them

it is only the fact that rafa has eventually realsised this and played to their strengths that he is getting a tune from them .

We have some good players and the rest are average prem players

they arent fizzy players
as they walked that league and have deserved the right to be called prem players

especially by their own fans

[Zippity]

they have deserved the right to be called prem players

especially by their own fans

That's actually a fair point.

But, whilst they earned the right to play in the Premier League, that made them players who play in the Premier League rather than Premier League quality, if that makes sense?

[pboromag]

That's actually a fair point.

But, whilst they earned the right to play in the Premier League, that made them players who play in the Premier League rather than Premier League quality, if that makes sense?

no it doesnt
are you saying someone like say gareth ble who came into the prem isnt prem qulity

are you saying that vardy isnt prem quality
he came from a lower league
and has developed into a premier ship player

some were prem players before they became fizzy players
how does that work then

[Zippity]

no it doesnt

Yeah, it does.



And who mentioned Bale or Vardy???? I'm talking about our players. Being in the Premier League doesn't make you a Premier League-quality player...unless you'd like to argue that Manquillo is Premier League quality because he plays in the Premier League?

[waalsendmick]

your wrong about the players
heres my reasoning be hind that
rafa had most these players and took us down
why because he pplayed negative defensive footy ,which when you needed points as we did we needed to be more positive .under him then we werent

i still think that if rafa hadnt been more positive like he is now we would have gonde down

my point being these lads played to their stregnths are a top 10-12 team at least .not fizzy as some would say

we kept saying pardew pardewed them
so basically we were saying they are better than he is making them

but under rafa untill recently they were as good as when pardew managed them

it is only the fact that rafa has eventually realsised this and played to their strengths that he is getting a tune from them .

We have some good players and the rest are average prem players

they arent fizzy players
as they walked that league and have deserved the right to be called prem players

especially by their own fans

Rafa had most these players and took us down?

only 4 of Saturday's line up were even at the club when we went down.
Lascelles, Dummet, Shelvey and Perez, with only Darlow amongst the subs.

[pboromag]

Rafa had most these players and took us down?

only 4 of Saturday's line up were even at the club when we went down.
Lascelles, Dummet, Shelvey and Perez, with only Darlow amongst the subs.

makes it worse then as he had better players we sold on