3 more wins .....

[champs95]

Tad harsh saxo
Only by what I have been told a large section of the brfc forum crowd is very inconsistent in their views much like yourself
If you are critical of Mowbray that's your view and cannot be criticised for your opinion but you do have a tendency to float in the direction of which way the wind is blowing
All opinions is welcome as long as there is a measure of consistency.

I just can't be bothered going on, as it would just drive me mad, and it's pointless arguing. I know what I'm like.

Saxo - I think I do go too far at times. I will say, that I do always hold my hands up and apologise if I do so. I guess it boils down to my lack of intellect. In that I struggle, with you, to not lose my cool. Which I turn winds me up, and I get all arsey and arrogant. .... I go too far. And I accept that I have gone too far this time. So I apologise.

I just really have a strong opinion, and fail at times to be able to communicate in a civil, normal way, and end up getting up people's backs. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, you included.

[Saxo1man41]

Tad harsh saxo
Only by what I have been told a large section of the brfc forum crowd is very inconsistent in their views much like yourself
If you are critical of Mowbray that's your view and cannot be criticised for your opinion but you do have a tendency to float in the direction of which way the wind is blowing
All opinions is welcome as long as there is a measure of consistency.

I posted the Mowbrays thread to appease champs and keep the peace. It went against everything I've always been about on these forums, and was a mistake. If you want to ban me for changing my mind and being honest, then go right ahead. I'm sure you'll all be really happy being sheep, agreeing with each other alongside your chief Shepard champs.

[AucklandRover]

I posted the Mowbrays thread to appease champs and keep the peace. It went against everything I've always been about on these forums, and was a mistake. If you want to ban me for changing my mind and being honest, then go right ahead. I'm sure you'll all be really happy being sheep, agreeing with each other alongside your chief Shepard champs.

I'm not quite sure what you mean there, Saxo, but I do find some of it a bit offensive.
I don't believe that supporting Mowbray (whose appointment underwhelmed me, remember), when he has led us to this excellent position - after a disastrous start - makes me a "sheep".
Your position - that a younger, more adventurous man would have us 10 or 15 points clear - can't be completely refuted, obviously, because it's unprovable and untestable, but I will say to you what I've said to the guy on the Telegraph site, who claims that our squad is so good we should be averaging 2.5 points per game: that figure would see us on 115 at the end of the season, breaking the L.1 record by 10 points, and I really find it hard to believe that we have a team capable of doing that - under any manager!
If current form is maintained, we are heading for 96 points and Wigan for 99. I suspect they will tip over the 100, because they have an easy run-in.
Both teams have done very well, but neither will come close to that 115 total. I believe it is absolutely unrealistic. In fact, I made the point that if you transplanted Burnley (top of the PL second tier) into this league, their sensible fans would accept that a record of something like: W-39; D-5; L-2 would be realistic, because football always throws up surprises. That would give them 122 points. Do you genuinely feel our current squad could have got close to that with, say, Shrewsbury's manager in charge? I don't.
Mowbray has found a formula based on a sound defence, two holding midfielders, two free-roaming, skilful support-forwards and a tough, hold-up centre-forward.
Your notion that playing Payne would have made 10 or 15 points' difference just isn't borne out by what we've seen of him. As for some of the other knockers' claim that some of the youngsters would have done better, that is, again, pure speculation.
Who would Tomlinson be in for? Travis has done very well, but Evans has come right back to form. Wharton instead of Mulgrew, Lenihan or Downing? Really? Bell and Williams? Probably very little to choose between them. A beat-the-man winger? We don't have one in the Under-23s, which is why Chapman has been so badly missed.
So what IS this miracle another manager would have produced with this squad to have had us on about 100 points by now?
To get back to "sheep", isn't it more sheep-like to support the perennial moaners of the BRFC site, who won't shift from this ludicrous position that the only thing that leads to victory in a football-match is what the manager says BEFORE a game?!
Should we have scored more goals? Possibly, but we know that our reputation makes other teams set up very defensively against us, and the Gillingham manager's comments make it clear his players were particularly fired up because they were playing Rovers.
I think you need to see your doctor and ask him or her to prescribe a heavy dose of reality.

[Saxo1man41]

I'm not quite sure what you mean there, Saxo, but I do find some of it a bit offensive.
I don't believe that supporting Mowbray (whose appointment underwhelmed me, remember), when he has led us to this excellent position - after a disastrous start - makes me a "sheep".
Your position - that a younger, more adventurous man would have us 10 or 15 points clear - can't be completely refuted, obviously, because it's unprovable and untestable, but I will say to you what I've said to the guy on the Telegraph site, who claims that our squad is so good we should be averaging 2.5 points per game: that figure would see us on 115 at the end of the season, breaking the L.1 record by 10 points, and I really find it hard to believe that we have a team capable of doing that - under any manager!
If current form is maintained, we are heading for 96 points and Wigan for 99. I suspect they will tip over the 100, because they have an easy run-in.
Both teams have done very well, but neither will come close to that 115 total. I believe it is absolutely unrealistic. In fact, I made the point that if you transplanted Burnley (top of the PL second tier) into this league, their sensible fans would accept that a record of something like: W-39; D-5; L-2 would be realistic, because football always throws up surprises. That would give them 122 points. Do you genuinely feel our current squad could have got close to that with, say, Shrewsbury's manager in charge? I don't.
Mowbray has found a formula based on a sound defence, two holding midfielders, two free-roaming, skilful support-forwards and a tough, hold-up centre-forward.
Your notion that playing Payne would have made 10 or 15 points' difference just isn't borne out by what we've seen of him. As for some of the other knockers' claim that some of the youngsters would have done better, that is, again, pure speculation.
Who would Tomlinson be in for? Travis has done very well, but Evans has come right back to form. Wharton instead of Mulgrew, Lenihan or Downing? Really? Bell and Williams? Probably very little to choose between them. A beat-the-man winger? We don't have one in the Under-23s, which is why Chapman has been so badly missed.
So what IS this miracle another manager would have produced with this squad to have had us on about 100 points by now?
To get back to "sheep", isn't it more sheep-like to support the perennial moaners of the BRFC site, who won't shift from this ludicrous position that the only thing that leads to victory in a football-match is what the manager says BEFORE a game?!
Should we have scored more goals? Possibly, but we know that our reputation makes other teams set up very defensively against us, and the Gillingham manager's comments make it clear his players were particularly fired up because they were playing Rovers.
I think you need to see your doctor and ask him or her to prescribe a heavy dose of reality.

Brfcs is an extreme, I sit somewhere in between. I'm not gonna say things are great after a 0-0 at bloody Gillingham with only 2 shots on target from free kicks 35 yards out. You say mowbray changed tack with his sub's, but for me they were like for like. There was no change in the pattern of our play at all. As you say, we haven't got the players to change style and go direct, other than putting a centre half upfront, but who's fault is that?

[robinrover]

Saxo I won't even consider banning you
You bring a different view even if it does change with the weather
The only person I thought about banning was that IDWT dingle
He was hell bent on ruining every thread with childish nonsense
Thankfully he disappeared.

[robinrover]

Even I admit we need to pull our socks up to beat the likes of Bristol rovers and Charlton away
Since Bradford we havnt been inspiring but thankfully we have mostly got away with it
Now we need to push on.

[AucklandRover]

Brfcs is an extreme, I sit somewhere in between. I'm not gonna say things are great after a 0-0 at bloody Gillingham with only 2 shots on target from free kicks 35 yards out. You say mowbray changed tack with his sub's, but for me they were like for like. There was no change in the pattern of our play at all. As you say, we haven't got the players to change style and go direct, other than putting a centre half upfront, but who's fault is that?

Well, I think it's mainly the fault of Chapman's absence. Mowbray recognised he provided something different, and his injury has been a pain.
As for going direct, I have no problem with it, but who would you drop to make it possible, even if we did have a Peter Crouch: Dack, Armstrong or Graham? They've all been prolific scorers.
I just think you find it hard to accept that not every game is going to go our way. Sometimes, another team's "negative" tactics actually work!

[Saxo1man41]

Even I admit we need to pull our socks up to beat the likes of Bristol rovers and Charlton away
Since Bradford we havnt been inspiring but thankfully we have mostly got away with it
Now we need to push on.

Let's hope tony can get them focused to perform as we know they're capable, starting today.

[robinrover]

Saxo they need to today
A play off side willing to cement their place in the mix won't be easy especially in their own back yard
A big improvement needed.

[Saxo1man41]

Well, I think it's mainly the fault of Chapman's absence. Mowbray recognised he provided something different, and his injury has been a pain.
As for going direct, I have no problem with it, but who would you drop to make it possible, even if we did have a Peter Crouch: Dack, Armstrong or Graham? They've all been prolific scorers.
I just think you find it hard to accept that not every game is going to go our way. Sometimes, another team's "negative" tactics actually work!

Graham normally goes off on around 60 mins every game.. There you go.