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    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    It's Corbyn whose costing the party power rather than his Brexit policy.
    Agreed, a robust opposition to the way the Tories are going about Brexit by a more moderate leader of the Labour party would have May in all sorts of trouble.

    No-one in their right mind can possibly think that this current cabinet are making a decent fist of our negotiations. To trigger article 50 before you know what you actually want to achieve from the negotiations was a ridiculous unforced error, as was the snap election and the complete cave-in to the EU order for negotiations.

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    And before someone points it out my 'whose' should have been 'who's'. It was of course a deliberate mistake designed to see if Airborn Virus was as smart as he thinks he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    And before someone points it out my 'whose' should have been 'who's'. It was of course a deliberate mistake designed to see if Airborn Virus was as smart as he thinks he is.
    Just didn't care tbh, you carry on pretending you meant it,

    carry on with your insults your obtuseness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapperleypie View Post
    Agreed, a robust opposition to the way the Tories are going about Brexit by a more moderate leader of the Labour party would have May in all sorts of trouble.

    No-one in their right mind can possibly think that this current cabinet are making a decent fist of our negotiations. To trigger article 50 before you know what you actually want to achieve from the negotiations was a ridiculous unforced error, as was the snap election and the complete cave-in to the EU order for negotiations.
    How can you decide what you actually want to achieve, when you are unsure how much the enemy will concede?
    You should go in with no deal on the table and show them you are strong. All this yellow/hollow backed obstructions from snowflakes, gives the EU encouragement and weakens your hand.
    You have obviously never played poker and we shouldn't give them an Inch. We owe them nothing.
    To compromise/give away more is what they want/need.
    1. need our cash
    2. want free movement
    3. want control over your trade
    4. want control over your laws

    Give in on those and they know, the EU will start to break up. There is a lot of unhappy bunnies in Europe, be it over money or immigration.
    They know their very existence is on the table.
    Tell them once only, either deal sensibly, or **** off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    You should go in with no deal on the table and show them you are strong.
    How do you do that when all the world knows that our government is as weak as piss? The majority of Conservative MPs voted to remain. I'm afraid we've shown them our hand and it's the poker equivalent of a Jack high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    How can you decide what you actually want to achieve, when you are unsure how much the enemy will concede?
    You should go in with no deal on the table and show them you are strong. All this yellow/hollow backed obstructions from snowflakes, gives the EU encouragement and weakens your hand.
    You have obviously never played poker and we shouldn't give them an Inch. We owe them nothing.
    To compromise/give away more is what they want/need.
    1. need our cash
    2. want free movement
    3. want control over your trade
    4. want control over your laws

    Give in on those and they know, the EU will start to break up. There is a lot of unhappy bunnies in Europe, be it over money or immigration.
    They know their very existence is on the table.
    Tell them once only, either deal sensibly, or **** off.
    The last line so very true

    It makes me laugh TTR how some on this board criticise our negotiating team. I've forgotten how many times I've said it but their very comments show they've never negotiated anything in big time business in their lives. Naturally they can voice an opinion but it's without experience.

    I said a few weeks ago that Corbyn was finished ..... which he will be within a year when the Labour party wake up to the fact middle England and the great silent majority don't want this unkempt, protesting Marxist Tw@t and his cohorts even being considered as the mainstay of a future government. I'm over the moon this Russian, IRA loving idiot is and has, been the main reason TM has survived, when a creditable opposition would have destroyed her.

    The lady will successfully get us out of the EU, the Customs Union & the single market as it stands. Whatever any revised arrangements are agreed, we will control our money, borders, Law and trade. She will then graciously stand down and a successor groomed in time for the next GE. TM will not go down as one of our finest PM's but she will go down as a person who persevered and backed the will of a democratic vote as promised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriouspie View Post
    It makes me laugh TTR how some on this board criticise our negotiating team. I've forgotten how many times I've said it but their very comments show they've never negotiated anything in big time business in their lives. Naturally they can voice an opinion but it's without experience.
    What a load of crap. So you know more about Brexit negotiations than the rest of us because you negotiated a few business deals? Laughable. Your predictions on how it will turn out are based entirely on what you desperately want to happen. I hate to break it to you, but that doesn't mean it will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    What a load of crap. So you know more about Brexit negotiations than the rest of us because you negotiated a few business deals? Laughable. Your predictions on how it will turn out are based entirely on what you desperately want to happen. I hate to break it to you, but that doesn't mean it will happen.
    The same can be said about all the doom and gloom predicted by the remainers, guess work or wanting to be proved right.

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