OT: Trump moves the world nearer to Armagheddon

[i961pie]

Who needs the BBC news when the experts on Notts County mad know what will or won't happen

[tarquinbeech]

Who needs the BBC news when the experts on Notts County mad know what will or won't happen

The BBC, along with Sky, ITV, MSM newspapers....they all only give you the info that they want you to hear or has been approved by Western Governments......no, to find the "real news" you have to dig around a bit to find the My Lai's, the Abu Ghraib's, Gulf of Tonkin, weapons to Iran to fund Contras in Nicaragua, fabricating the "babies pulled from incubators" story to start the Iraq war, WMDs that never existed, the CIA pumping cocaine north into LA to buy yet more weapons to send south......even Mexico recently where the weapons being seized here were traced to Federal Agencies north of the border in a sting operation that "went wrong"....but hey, let's not spoil the narrative, Mexicans bad, build a wall....Assad bad, bomb him.....Russia bad, sanctions, Saudi good, more weapons to bomb Yemen, Israel good, more weapons to kill pretty much everyone, including Iran.

The World stinks and the MSM ain't reporting it.....sorry.

Here is the 2 minute trailer for the new docu-film about the CIA-cocaine-weapons to LA story.......the original reporter, Gary Webb, apparently committed suicide 8 years after he broke the story...mmmm, yeah right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYAIYcu8glI

[andy6025]

The BBC, along with Sky, ITV, MSM newspapers....they all only give you the info that they want you to hear or has been approved by Western Governments......no, to find the "real news" you have to dig around a bit to find the My Lai's, the Abu Ghraib's, Gulf of Tonkin, weapons to Iran to fund Contras in Nicaragua, fabricating the "babies pulled from incubators" story to start the Iraq war, WMDs that never existed, the CIA pumping cocaine north into LA to buy yet more weapons to send south......even Mexico recently where the weapons being seized here were traced to Federal Agencies north of the border in a sting operation that "went wrong"....but hey, let's not spoil the narrative, Mexicans bad, build a wall....Assad bad, bomb him.....Russia bad, sanctions, Saudi good, more weapons to bomb Yemen, Israel good, more weapons to kill pretty much everyone, including Iran.

The World stinks and the MSM ain't reporting it.....sorry.

Here is the 2 minute trailer for the new docu-film about the CIA-cocaine-weapons to LA story.......the original reporter, Gary Webb, apparently committed suicide 8 years after he broke the story...mmmm, yeah right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYAIYcu8glI

Right you are, Tarkers! I don't know that we've ever been this much agreed.

But don't forget - it's only in Russia where journos pop themselves! ;-)

[MagpieTony]

The BBC, along with Sky, ITV, MSM newspapers....they all only give you the info that they want you to hear or has been approved by Western Governments......no, to find the "real news" you have to dig around a bit to find the My Lai's, the Abu Ghraib's, Gulf of Tonkin, weapons to Iran to fund Contras in Nicaragua, fabricating the "babies pulled from incubators" story to start the Iraq war, WMDs that never existed, the CIA pumping cocaine north into LA to buy yet more weapons to send south......even Mexico recently where the weapons being seized here were traced to Federal Agencies north of the border in a sting operation that "went wrong"....but hey, let's not spoil the narrative, Mexicans bad, build a wall....Assad bad, bomb him.....Russia bad, sanctions, Saudi good, more weapons to bomb Yemen, Israel good, more weapons to kill pretty much everyone, including Iran.

The World stinks and the MSM ain't reporting it.....sorry.

Here is the 2 minute trailer for the new docu-film about the CIA-cocaine-weapons to LA story.......the original reporter, Gary Webb, apparently committed suicide 8 years after he broke the story...mmmm, yeah right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYAIYcu8glI

Can't fault that Tarkers. I think everyone would be outraged if we truly found out the extent of the CIA's rogue actions. Just one point though. The point of the wall is not necessarily to keep Mexicans out. Mexico has been the open door for drugs, human trafficking, child abduction, *****philia, gun smuggling, intel and spying as well as illegal immigration. To focus purely on the racism aspect is to miss the point entirely.

[tarquinbeech]

Right you are, Tarkers! I don't know that we've ever been this much agreed.

But don't forget - it's only in Russia where journos pop themselves! ;-)

The sad thing is that Gary Webb is now largely, and slowly, being vindicated as more and more info is being declassified.

There is an excellent YouTube tribute to his work, citing numerous documents and newspaper articles from the people that lambasted him when he was alive....but who are slowly acknowledging that factually he was correct, the CIA were protecting and funding the Contras to destabilise Nicaragua, the Contras were smuggling drugs and needed money and weapons so they "turned a blind eye" (he went OTT when he attributed the US crack epidemic as purely down to the CIA-Contra deal IMO, plus I do not believe that the senior CIA-DEA personnel knew everything of what was happening in the field)

.....and as for his "suicide"?......someone shoots himself twice in the same side of the head with a single-shot weapon, this is pretty questionable....or maybe he was worried that his next book might ruffle more feathers, who knows.

Requiem for the suicided, Gary Webb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS-oNTe9kwE

[tarquinbeech]

Can't fault that Tarkers. I think everyone would be outraged if we truly found out the extent of the CIA's rogue actions. Just one point though. The point of the wall is not necessarily to keep Mexicans out. Mexico has been the open door for drugs, human trafficking, child abduction, *****philia, gun smuggling, intel and spying as well as illegal immigration. To focus purely on the racism aspect is to miss the point entirely.

.....and the US fund 70% of the gun supply here and 100% of the drug cash....unfortunately a wall can never stop it, all it will do is make Latin Americans looking to escape death and poverty, more desperate to seek a way out.....no ideas what the answers are except to increase the GDP here so that they have more opportunities, and no need to flee or get into smuggling and cartel warfare.

They are rapidly building huge factories all around me here, 3 hours south of the border.....Mercedes and BMW this year alone, so I think it is slowly working....thank goodness.

The problem is, that the violence is now even spreading to the "tourist areas" which were previously immune.....so it seems a case of "two steps forward, one step back"

Channel 4 documentary on Cancun and Acapulco....they didn't need to go looking for the drug war, it came to them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz6t2FEablA

[MagpieTony]

.....and the US fund 70% of the gun supply here and 100% of the drug cash....unfortunately a wall can never stop it, all it will do is make Latin Americans looking to escape death and poverty, more desperate to seek a way out.....no ideas what the answers are except to increase the GDP here so that they have more opportunities, and no need to flee or get into smuggling and cartel warfare.

They are rapidly building huge factories all around me here, 3 hours south of the border.....Mercedes and BMW this year alone, so I think it is slowly working....thank goodness.

The problem is, that the violence is now even spreading to the "tourist areas" which were previously immune.....so it seems a case of "two steps forward, one step back"

Channel 4 documentary on Cancun and Acapulco....they didn't need to go looking for the drug war, it came to them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz6t2FEablA

Trump is cleaning house and the CIA is at the centre of that. Just look at the firings/resignations that have occurred in the CIA, FBI, DOJ. This isn't a democrat v republican thing, there is corruption across the board.

[andy6025]

Can't fault that Tarkers. I think everyone would be outraged if we truly found out the extent of the CIA's rogue actions. Just one point though. The point of the wall is not necessarily to keep Mexicans out. Mexico has been the open door for drugs, human trafficking, child abduction, *****philia, gun smuggling, intel and spying as well as illegal immigration. To focus purely on the racism aspect is to miss the point entirely.

The purpose of the wall is to score political points with his base. Nothing more, nothing less.

[SolSigns]

Yeah, you're right about one thing, Tony. That hacked email really didn't convince me Obama wants Iran to have nukes.

Trump is cleaning house and the CIA is at the centre of that. Just look at the firings/resignations that have occurred in the CIA, FBI, DOJ. This isn't a democrat v republican thing, there is corruption across the board.

I get why someone could be suspicious of US govt. agencies, but not also being suspicious of Trump's motivations/influences/integrity/agendas is a serious miscalculation.

[MagpieTony]

Yeah, you're right about one thing, Tony. That hacked email really didn't convince me Obama wants Iran to have nukes.



I get why someone could be suspicious of US govt. agencies, but not also being suspicious of Trump's motivations/influences/integrity/agendas is a serious miscalculation.

I'm sure we will never see eye to eye re Trump. I hold him in high regard and think he is doing a great job. He has been faithful to his election promises and in my view been successful on the international stage. I would love someone with his pragmatic approach in the UK but unfortunately all we have is disMAY.