Lawlessness under this goverment

[The Minn Junta]

Minn...
"Did you hear the story of the white English lady who wanted to open a shop up Lye high street and was rounded on and threatened by a group of Asian men who threatened her to drop the idea or else?"
What does this have to do with leaving the EU? How many Asian people do you know that are from predominantly EU countries?

Is the thread not entitled 'Lawlessness under this government' I would have thought it self explanatory why I've included this story.

One of the many human traits, as I'm sure you're aware, is self preservation. The Romanians, who are mentioned in the examples provided by Mick and myself are displaying this, the Asians i'v mentioned are also displaying this, so why are we being challenged for displaying it? Perhaps you would prefer to abandon the name England and call us Europe Zone 2?

We simply want to keep things the way they were, not because we're frightened of change but because things are now evidently worse.

The £20 Billion government profit you talk of, are we better off as a result of it? I can't see that we are, I hear of Eastern Europeans being fast tracked in to the NHS, Police interpreter costs going through the roof, housing and benefits being provided to immigrants when our old who have worked all their lives have to surrender property meant for their off spring so as to pay for their keep.

I have a loathing for our governments past and present, all the Lilly livered Eton boys who reside in the leafy Surrey stockbroker suburbs are totally detached from reality. They may even be able to see what's going on but through fear of not towing the line and seeing the advancement of their political career go down the drain they keep quiet.

If you like the way things are going then I see you as someone I'd rather not discuss the matter with any further as clearly we will not agree, infact quite frankly it makes my blood boil.

All I can say is to all those who lived through the 50's before all this 5h1t landed here, I envy you.

[WBA123]

Minn...
Perhaps you would prefer to abandon the name England and call us Europe Zone 2?

We simply want to keep things the way they were, not because we're frightened of change but because things are now evidently worse.

The £20 Billion government profit you talk of, are we better off as a result of it? I can't see that we are, I hear of Eastern Europeans being fast tracked in to the NHS, Police interpreter costs going through the roof, housing and benefits being provided to immigrants.............

All I can say is to all those who lived through the 50's before all this 5h1t landed here, I envy you.

Couple of things about this,

I would rather keep England, than 'Little England' or 'Sick man of Europe'

And, you can't see things are 'evidently' worse and follow up with what you've 'heard'. The equivalent is me saying how things are 'evidently' better we're in the EU because I've 'heard' that there are some friendly, hard working Europeans. If you're going to say things are evidently worse, provide some evidence, and not hearsay.

And 1955 is right, there always has been lawlessness, and there always will be. Its life. We just have to rely on the Govt and law enforcement to do their jobs properly.

Albionic, you make some great points. I respect the fact you have come to your own conclusion re Brexit. And I agree with you that Labour have some activist loons. However, we'll never know if their manifesto for the last election was properly costed or not. And the reason why the Tories are in power, is because 8 of the top 10 selling newspapers endorse them. But this is the written press for you...

Anyway, I'll now stick to all things England and blue & white and wish you all well. Bring on the World Cup and next seasons fixtures I say!!

[The Minn Junta]

Couple of things about this,

I would rather keep England, than 'Little England' or 'Sick man of Europe'

And, you can't see things are 'evidently' worse and follow up with what you've 'heard'. The equivalent is me saying how things are 'evidently' better we're in the EU because I've 'heard' that there are some friendly, hard working Europeans. If you're going to say things are evidently worse, provide some evidence, and not hearsay.

And 1955 is right, there always has been lawlessness, and there always will be. Its life. We just have to rely on the Govt and law enforcement to do their jobs properly.

Albionic, you make some great points. I respect the fact you have come to your own conclusion re Brexit. And I agree with you that Labour have some activist loons. However, we'll never know if their manifesto for the last election was properly costed or not. And the reason why the Tories are in power, is because 8 of the top 10 selling newspapers endorse them. But this is the written press for you...

Anyway, I'll now stick to all things England and blue & white and wish you all well. Bring on the World Cup and next seasons fixtures I say!!

Why not? Is it not possible to see decline with your own eyes and hear of it from others who have witnessed the same? Or does this not suit your rhetoric? You also seem to fixated with Daily Mail and Sun readers, I read neither, having worked for a newspaper I can tell you I'm well aware of how they operate.

What people have being talking about behind closed doors for a while now is starting to come out into the public domain. How do I know this? Well for one I'm self employed, I work at close hand every day with the general public, I have a policy of not discussing politics with them, as it's turned out there's no need, it's them who raise it now.

You ask for evidence, FFS how long have you got?! Take our British Gas Engineer who repaired our boiler recently, he took his daughter to hospital who was in severe abdominal pain, he was waiting for one and a half hours with her clutching her side, in walks an Eastern European family who can't speak a word of English, they stood at the counter for five minutes then walked through to a doctor. The Engineers wife asked why are they going through before us, the reply from the desk was, oh we have to fast track them in as we cant understand their language. Needless to say the Engineer and his wife were infuriated and there daughter still had to continue to wait in pain.

I could go on and on but I'm buggered if I'm going to sit here typing for your benefit when all I'm doing is waisting my time.

Why don't you ask the people of Wolverhampton what they think of their town centre now, and on a smaller scale Lye?

Obviously I'm just a 'Little Englander' in your eyes, I'm amazed the race card hasn't being produced yet. You remind me a lot of Gordon Brown when he went on a walk about and famously left his mic' on whilst continuing to talk about the 'bigoted woman' he had just falsely smiled at.


As I said, there's no point in discussing it as we'll never agree.