Nothing learned from last season.

[herbert]

Are we in for any pace then Twirlo?

You hear anything else yesterday?

[JJBlade]

Good players cost money
That's why we have League One players when in the Championship
Championship players whilst in the Premier League

Even for five seasons in League One we had so much shyte that belonged in League Two or Non League

You've only got to look at where most players ended up after playing for us

[shorehamoldboy]

we certainly need some herbie i would start with just goldie up top at boro and play duffy and woodburn just in behind him mind dont fancy our chances up there waghorn forced to score if he plays

[JJBlade]

The club thinks it can get away with it by having a manager that will get after the players and not let up on them

That's why the miniscule amount of success that has been achieved has been achieved with a screaming bawling manager who gets the maximum out of a poor bunch of players, using a pre- historic style of football

Any manager trying to play football with skill, pace, precision, ability and flair will eventually fall flat on his face because he won't be backed by the boardroom when it comes to getting these types of players at a higher level

[Blade for Life]

Enda is just not good enough, hopefully Bryan is given a chance as he sounds like he is good technically. We needed a Duffy upgrade last season and we still do. Our JTW players have not risen to the challenge. For me a change at LWB, a new striker and Freeman are the minimum requirements.

[JJBlade]

S24SU members are waffling the same platitudes

Unlucky
Swansea are good
Its only the first game
It's only one defeat
Wilder will sort it

Any fan who dares to express concerns is a pig

I daren't post on there since the game, they'll track me down and send a hit man if I tell them what I think

[shorehamoldboy]

there is concerns jj not disputing it but its still early days the thing that concerns me a bit is as was the case in the last 3 months of last season and yesterday were just not playing with the same tempo as in the first 4 months its very slow and predictable far too many passes going backwards and sideways it just gives the opposition time to get back and get set up maybe a couple of pacy new signings would give us more options on and off the ball

[Twirlo70]

there is concerns jj not disputing it but its still early days the thing that concerns me a bit is as was the case in the last 3 months of last season and yesterday were just not playing with the same tempo as in the first 4 months its very slow and predictable far too many passes going backwards and sideways it just gives the opposition time to get back and get set up maybe a couple of pacy new signings would give us more options on and off the ball

Ya pass sideways cause theres absolutley nothing to passed to going forward. leaon clark and mcgoldrick didnt make one run inbetween their defenders,it was forward play of the lowest order. leon clarke just stands there in the box behind 3 defenders and makes no effort at all to get across the man in front of him. we are slow and cumbersome up front and it was glaring yesterday,we have just carried on from where we left of last season. one dimentional rubbish. until we get speed n agility in the side this season will be nothing more than an almighty struggle. kean bryon in for stevens to start with.

[woodysrightfoot]

I thought Barrie McKay was very good for them how come we can't pick the 1.5 mil player up

[JJBlade]

there is concerns jj not disputing it but its still early days the thing that concerns me a bit is as was the case in the last 3 months of last season and yesterday were just not playing with the same tempo as in the first 4 months its very slow and predictable far too many passes going backwards and sideways it just gives the opposition time to get back and get set up maybe a couple of pacy new signings would give us more options on and off the ball

The type of players that cost money
We've had to make do with them for about 50 years

So I can't see it changing
The club is scared, scared sh@tless of mistakes in the transfer market so it adopts the method that ten smaller mistakes is better than one big one.

When in actual fact Its more difficult to move 10 mistakes on better money than League One and Two on than it is to move one proven player on who just happens to have had a bad time at a particular club

Jordan Rhodes being just one example.
Total failure at the swill but still able to find somebody that wants him based on what he's done in the past.