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    Quote Originally Posted by SolSigns View Post
    For someone who likes to hear themselves pontificating at length on free speech, you should really have a better understanding of what is commonly referred to by the term.

    "Absolute freedom of speech" includes disseminating imagery and all the other things I listed. Legally in the UK, and in most other countries including the US.

    Are you trying to argue that anyone should be free to SAY what they like in private?
    I assume by "pontificating", you mean expressing an opinion, the same as you are, but in my case with no insults to the person with a different view.

    OK it is getting late, but given my argument that people should be able to use whatever form of wording they like, why would I be interested in "what is commonly referred to" by a certain term, including what that great academic resource Wikipedia says?

    I used the words I chose to use (which wasn't "absolute freedom of speech" anyway) and then explained what I meant by 'words' as opposed to 'actions', and my view certainly does not mean people are free to perform the 'action' of disseminating obscene material.

    I confess I am genuinely puzzled by your last post immediately above, which seems to go somewhat against what you said previously. I don't know enough about Jordan Peterson to comment about him, but most of what you've said I can agree with. I do agree it's important that people should speak freely, debate openly and not be offended or "run away" if someone else holds a different view which challenges their own values.

    Aren't the people who can speak freely, listen freely and grow and change their views through debate sometimes labelled as straw men, but only by those who are so stuck in their views that they see any compromise or recognition of others' views as a weakness, rather than strength?

    Seriously, are we actually agreeing or disagreeing with each other here?
    Last edited by jackal2; 09-08-2018 at 11:29 PM.

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