O/T Cover versions

[BigLadonOS]

C'mon lads. If there's any version better than Roberta Flack I haven't heard it.

Roberta Flack's version is also very good monty but the 3 way harmony and simple guitars of PPM just blows me away and in my opinion just pips Roberta Flack's version.

[CTMilller]

CT, there's quite a few Shellcocks still in Rotherham and I found a reference from the early 1950s to Florence and Frederick, parents of Peter Frederick Shellcock. My old history research instincts are awakened and I'll see if I can trace them to Effingham Street or a newsagents.

Thanks, Monty. I'd be interested in knowing if he's still alive. I did read something on the Shellcock family recently. A hard working bunch who opened several businesses. The mother was the driving force and then Peter's brother followed in her footsteps. They lived above the shop back in the fifties. I think many of them moved up to Scotland. The last I heard of Peter was that he either had a stall in the indoor market or worked on one. He'd be about 78 now. My sister would be 77. She had the unusual name of Jonquil...PM me if this gets a bit detailed or personal.

[monty_rhodes]

Thanks, Monty. I'd be interested in knowing if he's still alive. I did read something on the Shellcock family recently. A hard working bunch who opened several businesses. The mother was the driving force and then Peter's brother followed in her footsteps. They lived above the shop back in the fifties. I think many of them moved up to Scotland. The last I heard of Peter was that he either had a stall in the indoor market or worked on one. He'd be about 78 now. My sister would be 77. She had the unusual name of Jonquil...PM me if this gets a bit detailed or personal.

Will do. I didn't mention it because I wasn't sure of the relevance but the archive on Peter's parents mentioned another son, Brian.

[monty_rhodes]

Roberta Flack's version is also very good monty but the 3 way harmony and simple guitars of PPM just blows me away and in my opinion just pips Roberta Flack's version.

Ah, yes, BigLad, but Roberta Flack's version was on the jukebox in Bowland bar at Lancaster University in 1973 when I was 20 and still full of hope. Context is everything!

[BigLadonOS]

Ah, yes, BigLad, but Roberta Flack's version was on the jukebox in Bowland bar at Lancaster University in 1973 when I was 20 and still full of hope. Context is everything!

Definitely a lot of truth in that monty me owd mate.

[LincsMiller]

Nice one, Lincs! If I get it, I may bring it home anyway!

Thank you for the kind comment about my sister. Hope things are also OK in the LincsMiller household.

On the music front, I'm off to see what remains of The Eagles next week at the Giants Stadium in SF and then what remains of Peter, Paul and Mary (so, Peter and Paul,) in December at Freight and Salvage in Berkeley. I'll get to see what remains of The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson one of these days!

Hello CT , all is well in this neck of the woods. Blondie Chaplin and Al Jardine accompanied Brian Wilson the last time we saw him. The thing about the Beach Boys is that I feel a bit vindicated after years of stick from mates , especially through the 70/80s . Especially now Pet Sounds is still often voted one of the best albums ever made. Don't know if you are aware but they have re-mixed some well known tracks with the London Philharmonic Orchestra, to be honest the later ones don't sound a lot different to me because Wilson used quite a lot of orchestration on the originals, but then again my hearing is not finely tuned these days !!

[LincsMiller]

Just goes to show what a small (ghostly?) world we live in. Sat in Massarella coffee shop in Barnsley scrolling through this thread. Looked up on the wall and there's a photo almost identical to this one of one of their old ice cream vans!

Back on the cover topic, always liked Elvis Costello's version of She

That is weird Cam, I do believe the Rebori's may have been related to the Massarella family.

[LincsMiller]

My sister is 75 and still lives in Rotherham. She remembers the Columba Hall music scene. Her husband's family ran the Carter's Rest pub on College Road. I shall run the name Peter Shellcock past her.

Would that be the Hickmans Monty ? I remember John from school, and If I'm not mistaken their was a break in and the landlord got badly slammed with a razor!

[monty_rhodes]

Would that be the Hickmans Monty ? I remember John from school, and If I'm not mistaken their was a break in and the landlord got badly slammed with a razor!

Lincs, his name is Sanderson but it was his aunt who had the Carter's Rest apparently. I shall ask them if the name was Hickman. As for the Rebori's there's a brief article online by a daughter of theirs but it's mainly about connections with other Italian families in West Bar and nothing much on Rotherham.

[monty_rhodes]

https://www.thestar.co.uk/whats-on/o...ours-1-3699569

CT, here's a piece about Peter and Brian Shellcock. I haven't read it cos it doesn't like my *******er. Apparently the family name was originally Sillcock or Shillcock. I noticed a registry search by a Gwendoline Shellcock that mentions details of Peter, Brian and their parents.