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[animallittle3]

@ animal,

I think you ask the wrong questions, which is why you get to the wrong answers. For example, there is plenty wrong with the railways today (inevitably given Grayling's involvement), so the right question is ‘how can they be improved?’ From my experience with British Rail in the past and the services I use now, I conclude that the right answer is not nationalisation. There was no ‘probably’ in whether BR didn’t perform well. And if you think Europe shows the way, try travelling on SNCF in France; I’ve used it three times in the last two years and have had my journey disrupted by strike action on two of them. Macron is currently fighting to bring it into the 20th Century. I imagine that he will then take a breather before pushing on to the 21st

You miss the point when you talk about your views of the economy. I could probably make a longer list of issues with it than you and I am constantly disappointed by governments of every hue (that’s what you can do if you don’t belong to any particular political tribe), but the right question is ‘who could do it better?’ I look at McDonnell with his ‘wanting to overthrow capitalism and for the UK to become a socialist society’ and have no doubt that it isn’t him.

Another right question you could ask would be ‘who could deliver an improved system of industrial relations in this country?’ I look at McCluskey bankrolling Labour and whipping in its supporters and immediately conclude, not the current version of Labour.

Finally, I think you fall into the trap of assuming that your views of what Labour should be about actually count for something. I have no doubt that the average Labour member doesn't want to do a Venezuela or ‘overthrow capitalism' as per McDonnell, but it isn’t going to be the average Labour Party member who is running the country if a Labour government was returned. It’s going to be Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, McCluskey, Serwotka et al.

P.s. I note you comment about Trump and Brexit, which you attribute, as I understand it, to neo-liberalism. You voted for Brexit - what are you saying, that you abandoned reason and simply did do out of protest?

If you want my opinion , the current hierarchy at the Labour Party even in government won't have the majority or a long enough tenure to act out on many of their proposals , they'd need 3 terms consecutively and huge majorities , won't happen .

In fact I can see the party splitting post brexit and a new party formed by the centre ground , possibly with the Lib Dems .


I can see the tory party still tearing itself in two also with the end result that nobody in British politics will be able to earn a majority in parliament .

All three of the parties will either have to work together or we will implode .

I've stated why I voted leave as you well know , because I don't want to be ruled from Brussels as part of a European super state which is the way they want to go in my opinion it had nothing to do with neoliberalism , it's effects on myself and my partner at our time of life luckily don't hit us too much , I use the word luckily rather than anything else you might note .