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    If you believe you have prepared properly and fielded your best eleven it seems a bit daft to me not to trust your instincts and let it roll.

    From day one I have been totally bemused by SD's substitutions, but he gets paid £80k a week to make these decisions and I don't!

    The reality is no manager gets them right all of the time, Southgate in particular, makes some jaw dropping substitutions, but they try their best I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    If you believe you have prepared properly and fielded your best eleven it seems a bit daft to me not to trust your instincts and let it roll.

    From day one I have been totally bemused by SD's substitutions, but he gets paid £80k a week to make these decisions and I don't!

    The reality is no manager gets them right all of the time, Southgate in particular, makes some jaw dropping substitutions, but they try their best I'm sure.
    All good BT but what I am talking about is when you have fielded the best 11 and its failing.

    But fielding the best 11 usually means the best 11 for the tactic you have adopted--not necessarily the best 11 for job.

    You have three substitution options:-
    1. forced upon by injury.
    2 Playing another player in a position where the starting player has run out of legs or you want another player to have a go in the same position.
    3. For tactical reasons.

    We use 1 and 2 but seldom seem to employ 3 (although if we do I have missed it).

    Why not go 3-5-2 or 4-3-3 or even 3-4-3 if the situation demands? Or 4-2-1-3 or 4-3-1-2.

    Or 3-4-2 with one player who man-marks the opposition's best player.

    Under those circumstances we would see a different starting 11.

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    I agree with you 100% blueheeler1. It might be just because we lack variety and real quality of depth in the squad, but SD usually (almost always swaps like for like) e.g. Wood off Vokes on, Barnes off Vokes on. I hope the addition of Vydra and the return of Brady and Defour might offer us a different set of options when substitutions are needed for tactical reasons?

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    For me Blue , the mark of a very good manager is to recognise the threat as soon as it’s there from opposition formation - space etc etc .
    Seen it many times at Burnley from visiting managers where they recognise how to exploit us and our shape etc. ( Mourinho was prime more so last time Utd came , but this time he played Fellaini and neutralised any forward play we had ).
    We are slow to change - wolves is a prime example 2 weeks back where they had 5 in the middle and the extra man was Portuguese international Jota ( who had a field day ).
    I’m unsure why the players didn’t recognise it and say to Dyche we’re getting overun we need to change it.
    We were poor that day but when I played I recognised the threat and what was happening in a few minutes, So whilst we were poor in the game why didn’t Dyche stick an extra man in the middle even short term so they didn’t get as big a foothold of the game.
    I’m sure there is a structure within Burnley shape etc but if we can’t ever change and adapt to stop other teams with 3 centre backs and overlapping wing backs or 5 across the middle etc , the football will stay the same as it is now, and we will get caught out.
    I think it’s so important for management to recognise early as if the opposition get in front in this league by a goal or two it’s very difficult to get back in the game.

    A brave manager sees it and alters it Imo as soon as he can to gain an advantage over the opposition or at least prevent them from gaining the advantage.

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