Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
I'm spouting what I believe over and over again and you are doing the same.

An agreement will follow from negotiations in which we say what we want, the EU says what it wants and there is a degree of compromise so that we meet in the middle. That's how negotiations work.

The draft withdrawal deal does not 'bury us deeper into EU control'; you are mistaken.

We cannot unilaterally forge any deal. The EU has its own aims from the negotiations and we should care what they are as they will inform their negotiating position.

Of course EU countries will trade with us after Brexit. The issue is the additional costs that will be imposed through tarrifs and custom checks if we do not achieve something approaching a free trade deal. Any additional costs will have to be borne by UK based companies and individual consumers.
Can you right now put your hand on your heart and say that this is a good deal for the UK? Going into blind negotiations with the EU holding all the cards? They could make these negotiations last for 10 years if they wanted. If no compromise can be made and why would there be a compromise from the EU it would have the effect of either we stay run by EU laws or we or forced to a hard Brexit. No matter how you look at it and from what angle this deal is so bad for the UK that only party line towers would even think of backing it.

You say that we would have control over our own borders yet the EU are wanting to split the UK? Where is that control over our own borders if we cant even control what is already part of the UK without a deal from the EU.