O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[ragingpup]

Are neither of you two Labour lads going to have the courtesy to reply to Timbertop, given that he is clearly operating under the misapprehension that your party would deliver Brexit, as voted for in the Referendum?

Morning lovely.

And are you, as a Conservative supporter going to have the courtesy of replying to what Mike Harding is accusing your party of doing to the country, simply to appease a minority of politicians in your party?

And whilst your here, please could you have a stab at defining what you mean by your words "Brexit, as voted for in the referendum".

[KerrAvon]

1. I'm not a Conservative etc;
2. Can you define what you believe the Tories to be doing to the country? There appear to be several factions within the party (note Harding's reference to civil war). May appears to be seeking to leave the EU in accordance with the decision made by the electorate, having secured a deal that she believes will minimise the damage that said leaving will inflict upon the economy.
4. I don't have Harding's address and don't particularly want to enter into correspondence with him. Is he now an official Labour spokesperson?
5. Brexit is derived from 'Britain' and 'Exit' and refers to Britain's exit from the EU (strictly speaking, it ought to be UKxit, but the DUP don't seem to have noticed).

[ragingpup]

1. I'm not a Conservative etc;
2. Can you define what you believe the Tories to be doing to the country? There appear to be several factions within the party (note Harding's reference to civil war). May appears to be seeking to leave the EU in accordance with the decision made by the electorate, having secured a deal that she believes will minimise the damage that said leaving will inflict upon the economy.
4. I don't have Harding's address and don't particularly want to enter into correspondence with him. Is he now an official Labour spokesperson?
5. Brexit is derived from 'Britain' and 'Exit' and refers to Britain's exit from the EU (strictly speaking, it ought to be UKxit, but the DUP don't seem to have noticed).

1. You absolutely are, as you are repeatedly unable to define how your personal policies differ from conservative policies and explain why you don't vote for them (apart from an evasive (my local Tory is rubbish!)
2. I believe that the Conservative party, to solve the anti-EU split in their own party - instead of clarifying their intentions on the EU amongst themselves and then working that into their manifesto along with other policies, chose a cowardly option in putting it to a national referendum and causing the damage which Harding eloquently describes. They didn't have to do this, there was no clear public call for it and we see the damage clearly in social and incoming economic terms.
3. Where's 3? What have you got against 3?
4. Not requesting you post to Harding (duuh!) - but repond to the points he is making on the points he raises in 2
5. We know that (duuh!). But you seem to be implying that through your words "Brexit, as voted for in the referendum" that Labour have a clear plan to do something other than Leave the EU?

[animallittle3]

My personal way forward is this , just my opinion .

I'd vote the deal through parliament , given the fact it's the only deal and further negotiations are off the table .

It would however cost the government a GE to be offered in early April and when we have left the EU .

The electorate can then decide who they feel can manage the process best and stabilise the nation .

[MillerBill]

The media's Project Fear is back in full swing bigging up Mark Carney's "no deal " speech as a forecast of economic disaster but failing to tell us this was his WORST CASE scenario appraisal. Unfortunately these scare tactics are beginning to influence people. When Tory grandees like Ken Clarke are now supporting May's deal we should be worried. Come on Mr Corbyn and get behind what most Labour supporters voted for in the referendum. Can't see how remaining as EU lapdogs will help his political aspirations.

Corbyn needs to sort out what he ACTUALLY stands for.He has done a " U Turn",after condemning the EU all his political lifetime, he has rowed in with Islington lovie dovies .The likes of Geldoff and his very wealthy layabout friends on that millionaire's yacht who put two fingers up at the downtrodden trawlermen, who were protesting about the EU was an absolute disgrace!! Come on Corbyn be honest,why be on the side of big business who are trying to please the shareholders by having a cosy relationship with the corrupt EU.Yes "Project fear" will be in full swing again with all the exaggerated predictions based on the worst possible outcomes.They never get it right but always seem to get a lot of coverage through the BBC and other networks who support the EU.

[Exiletyke]

1. You absolutely are, as you are repeatedly unable to define how your personal policies differ from conservative policies and explain why you don't vote for them (apart from an evasive (my local Tory is rubbish!)
2. I believe that the Conservative party, to solve the anti-EU split in their own party - instead of clarifying their intentions on the EU amongst themselves and then working that into their manifesto along with other policies, chose a cowardly option in putting it to a national referendum and causing the damage which Harding eloquently describes. They didn't have to do this, there was no clear public call for it and we see the damage clearly in social and incoming economic terms.
3. Where's 3? What have you got against 3?
4. Not requesting you post to Harding (duuh!) - but repond to the points he is making on the points he raises in 2
5. We know that (duuh!). But you seem to be implying that through your words "Brexit, as voted for in the referendum" that Labour have a clear plan to do something other than Leave the EU?

I had you down as an intelligent sort rp so why do you keep banging your head against his/her brick & thick wall?
Is it because it's better when you stop? [sorry forgot you don't stop]
Who else would interpret your Harding post as "don't have his address"; but it's you who finishes up explaining
When will the penny drop?
10/10 for persistence though
This is not a dig btw just an observation

[Exiletyke]

Corbyn needs to sort out what he ACTUALLY stands for.He has done a " U Turn",after condemning the EU all his political lifetime, he has rowed in with Islington lovie dovies .The likes of Geldoff and his very wealthy layabout friends on that millionaire's yacht who put two fingers up at the downtrodden trawlermen, who were protesting about the EU was an absolute disgrace!! Come on Corbyn be honest,why be on the side of big business who are trying to please the shareholders by having a cosy relationship with the corrupt EU.Yes "Project fear" will be in full swing again with all the exaggerated predictions based on the worst possible outcomes.They never get it right but always seem to get a lot of coverage through the BBC and other networks who support the EU.

I actually agree with that post

[animallittle3]

GM emigrates to Frankfurt , ah well at least he can bang his social conscience drum eating sour kraut .

:-) :-) :-)


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...are-for-brexit

[gm_gm]

GM emigrates to Frankfurt , ah well at least he can bang his social conscience drum eating sour kraut .

:-) :-) :-)


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...are-for-brexit

Animal the City will continue to flourish, more jobs are being created than lost.

No-one wants to work in Frankfurt as it closes at 8.0 O'Clock and its difficult to get the best people to work there, Paris is also a problem due to the French employment laws.

1 in 5 trades in the world flows through the city

[ragingpup]

I had you down as an intelligent sort rp so why do you keep banging your head against his/her brick & thick wall?
Is it because it's better when you stop? [sorry forgot you don't stop]
Who else would interpret your Harding post as "don't have his address"; but it's you who finishes up explaining
When will the penny drop?
10/10 for persistence though
This is not a dig btw just an observation

Fair point, Exile, I ain't that bright. But not so dense as to really take Kerr's point on Harding's address seriously!