Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
Kerr, May's deal is covered in a shroud of darkness mate and yes it does leave us locked in to the EU while negotiations go on over the backdrop. There is no set time for that backdrop to have to reach a conclusion and while ever we are in those negotiations we are ruled by the EU laws but this time we have no say in those laws made.

Yes we have partial control over some aspects of what we can do over our borders, fisheries etc but those rules must still fall within what the EU has agreed with us. In other words we will have independence but without independence.

For us to really have our independence with no input at all from the EU all hangs on a deal being made over the backdrop. The negotiations over that backdrop could run on for years if the EU so wanted it too and that is where the deal falls short of actually being a deal at all of any kind. We would be in limbo, still having to contribute to the EU but having no say as what rules are made by the EU.

Such a stupid deal to make.
Just wanted to add this comment from a online abroad Guardian reader:

"Are you guys seriously going to crash out of the EU with no agreements in place, then try to negotiate those deals from outside? Something is seriously wrong with your educational system."

It does sound a bit silly doesn't it? I'm all for respecting the views of the significant minority of the population that are passionate about FoM and seeing us as shackled to the EU, but May's deal being so open ended is ridiculous. Hence why it will be defeated. There is no mandate for it. So why persist in trying to sell it?