Match Ratings

[jackal2]

I also thought Hewitt was better than normal at RB. I feared the worst when I saw him starting there, but he didn't do much wrong. I was also surprised to see him taking set pieces, but actually he did pretty well there too.

I've slaughtered Hewitt as a right-back, with just cause, but yesterday he didn't do much wrong. "Better than normal" is probably the best description.

Jones at left-back was the concern. It baffles me how a player of his experience, who has played either left midfield or left-back all his career, can defend that badly. He looks terrified of confronting or tackling any wide player he faces, and yet physically he should be quite an intimidating presence. You could have put a traffic cone in the left-back position yesterday and it would have stopped more balls going into the box. Yes he created a goal and did okay going forward, but defending is his first job and he doesn't do it well enough.

[Bohinen]

Jones at left-back was the concern. It baffles me how a player of his experience, who has played either left midfield or left-back all his career, can defend that badly. He looks terrified of confronting or tackling any wide player he faces, and yet physically he should be quite an intimidating presence. You could have put a traffic cone in the left-back position yesterday and it would have stopped more balls going into the box. Yes he created a goal and did okay going forward, but defending is his first job and he doesn't do it well enough.

Those of us who saw him in the Munto season knew he was bang average at best and also a nasty piece of work but those voices were drowned out by others saying how much Chesterfield fans rated him, even though he hardly ever played due to injury. Before that, he was sacked by Port Vale for attacking his captain. We should never have offered him a contract.

[Freeman25]

Those of us who saw him in the Munto season knew he was bang average at best.

Yeah because basing an opinion on a player on how he performed 10 years previously is always worthwhile...

[Bohinen]

Yeah because basing an opinion on a player on how he performed 10 years previously is always worthwhile...

An opinion from people who have watched the player is probably more worthwhile than some chatter on a fans' website It's also worthwhile noting that Port Vale sacked him for assaulting their captain. Or was that too long ago to matter. A lot can change in 4 years.

[Freeman25]

An opinion from people who have watched the player is probably more worthwhile than some chatter on a fans' website

Not when they watched the player 10 years ago in a handful of games it isn't.

You can point to plenty of players that have been here on loan and gone on to have succesful careers atr the same level or higher like Jones did but two that come to mind are Chris O'Grady and Matt Ritchie. O'Grady was pants and the jury was fairly split on Matt Ritchie when he was here.

You mention a lot can change in 4 years when talking about him getting into a training ground bust up (and presumably winning, therefore losing his contract as he took on the captain) but that's exactly my point about the fact you saw him in 7 games 10 years ago. Training ground scuffle's are fairly common, he got unlucky that his part in the fight caused the damage it did but that incident on it's own doesn't make him a "nasty peice of work" nor does it make him not worthy of carrying on his profession.

[Bohinen]

Not when they watched the player 10 years ago in a handful of games it isn't.

You can point to plenty of players that have been here on loan and gone on to have succesful careers atr the same level or higher like Jones did but two that come to mind are Chris O'Grady and Matt Ritchie. O'Grady was pants and the jury was fairly split on Matt Ritchie when he was here.

You mention a lot can change in 4 years when talking about him getting into a training ground bust up (and presumably winning, therefore losing his contract as he took on the captain) but that's exactly my point about the fact you saw him in 7 games 10 years ago. Training ground scuffle's are fairly common, he got unlucky that his part in the fight caused the damage it did but that incident on it's own doesn't make him a "nasty peice of work" nor does it make him not worthy of carrying on his profession.

All your points would be valid if it were not for the fact that he is now, as most if not all would agree, crap.

As for his character, if you remember there was an incident where Jones kicked the ball away in frustration and it hit a young Notts fan and hurt him, and Jones did not apologise. That made him unpopular at the time.

Personally I think he looks a right **** with his dyed hair and arm to arm tattoos, but I realise that's a personal thing on my part. I suppose tattoos are alright really , but I think a player should reach a certain standard before he hits the tattoo shops for double sleeves.

[slack_pie]

All your points would be valid if it were not for the fact that he is now, as most if not all would agree, crap.

As for his character, if you remember there was an incident where Jones kicked the ball away in frustration and it hit a young Notts fan and hurt him, and Jones did not apologise. That made him unpopular at the time.

Personally I think he looks a right **** with his dyed hair and arm to arm tattoos, but I realise that's a personal thing on my part. I suppose tattoos are alright really , but I think a player should reach a certain standard before he hits the tattoo shops for double sleeves.

Looks like Jones has reached full-on scapegoat status now! I DON'T EVEN LIKE THE WAY HE LOOKS.

How about we just get behind the players, eh.