The Summer Transfer Window

[rico94]

The lack of ambition from the board is the main one.

The cheeks strengthened again last month and we are being told we should be pleased because we managed to keep our key players.

Obviously we can’t compete with their budgets but we aren’t even looking like we are making an effort.

We might manage to finish above the Huns again this season if we are lucky but it really is just putting off the inevitable.The cheeks will keep getting stronger and we will keep filling our squad with loan players.

[Red Zone]

The lack of ambition from the board is the main one.

The cheeks strengthened again last month and we are being told we should be pleased because we managed to keep our key players.

Obviously we can’t compete with their budgets but we aren’t even looking like we are making an effort.

We might manage to finish above the Huns again this season if we are lucky but it really is just putting off the inevitable.The cheeks will keep getting stronger and we will keep filling our squad with loan players.

The number of loan players is not the reason we are behind them (all three teams have five players “borrowed”), but rather the quality of loan players. We get players from Brentford and Birmingham whilst they get from PSG, Dortmund and Liverpool. Anybody who says the budget doesn’t make a difference is kidding themselves.

[vinnydesalvo]

The number of loan players is not the reason we are behind them (all three teams have five players “borrowed”), but rather the quality of loan players. We get players from Brentford and Birmingham whilst they get from PSG, Dortmund and Liverpool. Anybody who says the budget doesn’t make a difference is kidding themselves.

Man Utd?

Think the expensively assembled permanent dross has something to do with it too like.

[Red Zone]

Man Utd?

Think the expensively assembled permanent dross has something to do with it too like.

Wilson is no more MU calibre than you or me. It’s four years since he last played for them. He has spent the last four years either injured or bumming around the Championship. Look at what Kent did to us last night to see what spending money on a player that is a realistic top end of EPL player can do.

[vinnydesalvo]

Wilson is no more MU calibre than you or me. It’s four years since he last played for them. He has spent the last four years either injured or bumming around the Championship. Look at what Kent did to us last night to see what spending money on a player that is a realistic top end of EPL player can do.

He’s on a rather handsome United wage which I’d imagine at £35k per week dwarves Kent’s youth player contract at Liverpool.

Kent was allowed to have a good game last night. I don’t recall him looking much at Hampden. Definite ability and potential with an outdoubtedly more focused mental approach than our loanee. He’s certainly offering more than what we’re getting.

Clearly Stevie Erm Jèrarrd has seen enough at Liverpool youths as to what the player might offer. Not sure if it was the same with Ejaria who didn’t even bother flattering whilst deceiving, but you probably stand a better chance of plundering a Danny Ward ability player loan than a Ryan McLoughlin if you’ve worked with the youngster rather than be one of Russ Richardson’s noticeable misses.

Course if you have a seemingly bottomless pit to write off £2m players within the first year of their £20k a week, it’s all pretty inconsequential isn’t it.

[rico94]

The number of loan players is not the reason we are behind them (all three teams have five players “borrowed”), but rather the quality of loan players. We get players from Brentford and Birmingham whilst they get from PSG, Dortmund and Liverpool. Anybody who says the budget doesn’t make a difference is kidding themselves.

Yes but they also strengthened their squads while our squad seems to have decreased again.

The Huns made 10 permanent signings on top of the 5 loans.

The Tims made 8 permanent signings on top of the 5 loans.

We made 4 permanent signings as well as 5 loans.

With Shinnie,GMS and McKenna likely away in the summer as well as the 5 loans we are going to have a lot of players to sign and I expect that there will be a lot more than 5 players on loan next season.

[Red Zone]

Yes but they also strengthened their squads while our squad seems to have decreased again.

The Huns made 10 permanent signings on top of the 5 loans.

The Tims made 8 permanent signings on top of the 5 loans.

We made 4 permanent signings as well as 5 loans.

With Shinnie,GMS and McKenna likely away in the summer as well as the 5 loans we are going to have a lot of players to sign and I expect that there will be a lot more than 5 players on loan next season.

Both Stewart and Ball are out of contract in the Summer and I suspect we will try to sign both. We may or may not get Lowe again next season depending on what Derby do the rest of this season. Not sure what Hobans contract situation is but can’t see him getting anywhere near Watford’s team so he may be back if not Shaughnessy. I suspect we will end up with around 5 loans again.

Easier said than done but the only realistic way to compete with the cheeks going forward in the long term is to try to bring through 4-5 of our own younger players at the same time and create a conveyor belt of getting 3-4 years out of them before selling them for decent money that can be re-invested in the team. Easy to say, much harder to make happen of course.

[rico94]

Both Stewart and Ball are out of contract in the Summer and I suspect we will try to sign both. We may or may not get Lowe again next season depending on what Derby do the rest of this season. Not sure what Hobans contract situation is but can’t see him getting anywhere near Watford’s team so he may be back if not Shaughnessy. I suspect we will end up with around 5 loans again.

Easier said than done but the only realistic way to compete with the cheeks going forward in the long term is to try to bring through 4-5 of our own younger players at the same time and create a conveyor belt of getting 3-4 years out of them before selling them for decent money that can be re-invested in the team. Easy to say, much harder to make happen of course.

I have said it before but if we sell McKenna in the summer it will be interesting to see how much gets invested back into the squad.

[Red Zone]

I have said it before but if we sell McKenna in the summer it will be interesting to see how much gets invested back into the squad.

Yes it will. I suspect that it will be 10-20% at most with the rest kept for the stadium sadly

[Feck_the_Huns]

Both Stewart and Ball are out of contract in the Summer and I suspect we will try to sign both. We may or may not get Lowe again next season depending on what Derby do the rest of this season. Not sure what Hobans contract situation is but can’t see him getting anywhere near Watford’s team so he may be back if not Shaughnessy. I suspect we will end up with around 5 loans again.

Easier said than done but the only realistic way to compete with the cheeks going forward in the long term is to try to bring through 4-5 of our own younger players at the same time and create a conveyor belt of getting 3-4 years out of them before selling them for decent money that can be re-invested in the team. Easy to say, much harder to make happen of course.

Ball? I've seen far worse players at Pittodrie in my many, many years of attending games, but he's nowhere near the first team at present. Not even sure if he fulfills the "squad player" tag. So, waste of a wage, in my opinion, and surely we can do better?