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    Long and boring post post alert. The following comments are prompted by Roymit and Barrera's responses but aren’t aimed directly towards anyone, they may expand on my earlier post though. As stated I’ve never met Tom Watson. Opinions, which are what I gave, are like perceptions as they’re gleaned from how we interpret what we see/read and hear. Like arseholes everybody has as an opinion, and like every good boring online arsehole those opinions are mine.

    To be honest TM’s always come across as something of a chod to me. And a very glib, off hand and catch phrase driven chod at that. I may be reading him all wrong and I’m open minded enough to reconsider. However as those are the impressions he’s always left on me they’re the ones which form my current opinions.

    I am yet to stumble across a single original/sensible view or opinion of his either as these seem to follow on the coattails of other initiatives. Hence my comments that he is a herd follower and campaigner. There is nothing wrong with either trait as numbers and campaigners are essential to party politics and many walks of life. But to my mind neither trait marks him out as a leader, another point I passed comment on and what the thread is about.

    As for his weight loss I too commend him on his efforts. It’s very difficult to lose so much weight and his achievement says much for his determination. I was in no way deriding his initial weight gain either. Further to this I acknowledge that like many I could do with shifting a few extra pounds myself. When referring to the sugar content on the side of Cola bottles I was attempting to highlight his general lack of awareness.

    He’s an MP in Sandwell which has one of the highest obesity rates in the UK. He’s openly admitted to having no previous idea of the sugar content of Coca Cola when the information is on the side of the bottle. Allied to the further comment he never realised how unhealthy cold pizza consumed with Cola could be as an option for breakfast also suggests he is indeed glib and off hand. Granted this is not a crime in itself, but his lack of awareness and thought regarding heathier options and his chosen words are an embarrassment to him if he’s to be considered as a serious politician.

    Why does this become such a ‘big deal’? Because as the MP for West Bromwich he should have been at the forefront of promoting healthier life styles within his constituency from the outset rather than when they became relevant to him. That’s leadership on a local level. The fact he wasn’t inquisitive enough to look at a nutritional label he saw day in day out allied to his previously mentioned off handed nature, does not fill me with confidence regarding his attention to details elsewhere.

    As for Corbyn don’t get me started on him either. And you can include McDonnell, Williamson, Abbot, Thornberry, Soubry, Hammond, Cable and a whole host of politicians across a spectrum of parties to the list. What a shower of sh it. I’d run for office myself but I’ve got far too many skeletons in the cupboard for any of that b@ll@cks. Thank your lucky stars people .

    (Ed: and I'd probably be sh it at it anyway )
    Last edited by Albionic68; 27-02-2019 at 02:00 PM.

  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albionic68 View Post
    Long and boring post post alert. The following comments are prompted by Roymit and Barrera's responses but aren’t aimed directly towards anyone, they may expand on my earlier post though. As stated I’ve never met Tom Watson. Opinions, which are what I gave, are like perceptions as they’re gleaned from how we interpret what we see/read and hear. Like arseholes everybody has as an opinion, and like every good boring online arsehole those opinions are mine.

    To be honest TM’s always come across as something of a chod to me. And a very glib, off hand and catch phrase driven chod at that. I may be reading him all wrong and I’m open minded enough to reconsider. However as those are the impressions he’s always left on me they’re the ones which form my current opinions.

    I am yet to stumble across a single original/sensible view or opinion of his either as these seem to follow on the coattails of other initiatives. Hence my comments that he is a herd follower and campaigner. There is nothing wrong with either trait as numbers and campaigners are essential to party politics and many walks of life. But to my mind neither trait marks him out as a leader, another point I passed comment on and what the thread is about.

    As for his weight loss I too commend him on his efforts. It’s very difficult to lose so much weight and his achievement says much for his determination. I was in no way deriding his initial weight gain either. Further to this I acknowledge that like many I could do with shifting a few extra pounds myself. When referring to the sugar content on the side of Cola bottles I was attempting to highlight his general lack of awareness.

    He’s an MP in Sandwell which has one of the highest obesity rates in the UK. He’s openly admitted to having no previous idea of the sugar content of Coca Cola when the information is on the side of the bottle. Allied to the further comment he never realised how unhealthy cold pizza consumed with Cola could be as an option for breakfast also suggests he is indeed glib and off hand. Granted this is not a crime in itself, but his lack of awareness and thought regarding heathier options and his chosen words are an embarrassment to him if he’s to be considered as a serious politician.

    Why does this become such a ‘big deal’? Because as the MP for West Bromwich he should have been at the forefront of promoting healthier life styles within his constituency from the outset rather than when they became relevant to him. That’s leadership on a local level. The fact he wasn’t inquisitive enough to look at a nutritional label he saw day in day out allied to his previously mentioned off handed nature, does not fill me with confidence regarding his attention to details elsewhere.

    As for Corbyn don’t get me started on him either. And you can include McDonnell, Williamson, Abbot, Thornberry, Soubry, Hammond, Cable and a whole host of politicians across a spectrum of parties to the list. What a shower of sh it. I’d run for office myself but I’ve got far too many skeletons in the cupboard for any of that b@ll@cks. Thank your lucky stars people .

    (Ed: and I'd probably be sh it at it anyway )
    My opinion remains with Watson that there’s a fat Cnut just waiting to escape that new frame as soon as his aspirations of leadership fall on their a r s e.

    I’m with you 68 on the “running for office” theme.

    I thought about it a few years ago ( UKIP ) and then recounted my “skeletons” and my penchant for speaking my mind and my inability to turn the other cheek.

    It’s important in life to be able to appreciate your own shortcomings......a facet most politicians are incapable of.

    I’d be front page fodder on a daily basis and although it’d be interesting to some degree it would be a daily car crash!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roymit View Post
    I've actually met Tom Watson and spent some time in his company.
    I am glad you expanded on this later in the thread Roymit as that sounded very Christine Keeleresque.

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    Dear BaggieBlood, that’s the first good laugh I’ve had all day!

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