O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[ragingpup]

Are you for real? The Cons are a leave party because that is how they won the Election. They are still a leave party so therefore must be taken into account on the leave side. Unreal straw clutching yet again.

So if you must count the tories as leave then we must count labour with 65% remain voters to the remain count. And Labour got double the tory vote

But I thought you said we couldn't do that (as in Green party) as who are you to say what the tory voters in this election wanted (hard or soft)?

[KerrAvon]

I am not scared but why should I go against my own beliefs that Democracy is not best served with another vote. I'm not like you and the rest of the leavers I dont want to prove a point I just want the correct view that leave won the referendum and as a country that preaches democracy all over the world we should stick by that belief.

Since when am I a remainer? I am hurt – wasn’t it Søren Kierkegaard who said ‘Once you label me you negate me’? It’s a bad habit.

I think there are valid arguments for both Leave and Remain. For me, the economic arguments clearly and indisputably support Remain. It's the political arguments for Leave that I find troubling and compelling.

[BigLadonOS]

I don't mind at all if you want to add the Tory vote into the Leave column. It's irrelevant given that the figures are what they are. But if you are going to do it, the inescapable logic of that is that you must add the Labour vote into Leave.

Again you are trying to make something out of nothing as Labour also fought the GE on Leave and have so far not backed anything otherwise so must still be classed as leave. But if it makes you happy you can add Labour to to the remainers if you like and assume that they would have voted to stay in just like you have done the other parties.

[KerrAvon]

So if you must count the tories as leave then we must count labour with 65% remain voters to the remain count. And Labour got double the tory vote.

Since when is 14.1 double 9.1? You've been around Diane Abbott for too long (but you can probably help Labour with its economic policies).

[BigLadonOS]

Since when am I a remainer? I am hurt – wasn’t it Søren Kierkegaard who said ‘Once you label me you negate me’? It’s a bad habit.

I think there are valid arguments for both Leave and Remain. For me, the economic arguments clearly and indisputably support Remain. It's the political arguments for Leave that I find troubling and compelling.

You are doing a fantastic job of showing me you are on the fence is all I can say.

[ragingpup]

This thread is enjoyably weird.

[Exiletyke]

Use the search facility like normal people.

Just thought you may be polite enough to show us your reasons against a second referendum but I shall remain disappointed & will continue in my belief that you have made no such assertions
Sorry not to believe you but you do have history

[BigLadonOS]

So if you must count the tories as leave then we must count labour with 65% remain voters to the remain count. And Labour got double the tory vote

But I thought you said we couldn't do that (as in Green party) as who are you to say what the tory voters in this election wanted (hard or soft)?

What the F are you on about????????? I merely used your own logic against you to prove a point that your logic is false and untrue.

[KerrAvon]

You are doing a fantastic job of showing me you are on the fence is all I can say.

Just like the country as we saw from the refrerendum and the results last Thursday. It's a complex and diffilcut issue. If we have learned nothing from the process it must be that.

[Exiletyke]

Since when am I a remainer? I am hurt – wasn’t it Søren Kierkegaard who said ‘Once you label me you negate me’? It’s a bad habit.

I think there are valid arguments for both Leave and Remain. For me, the economic arguments clearly and indisputably support Remain. It's the political arguments for Leave that I find troubling and compelling.

Economic arguments are not clearly & indisputably fact They are opinons no more no less
& you have more than once after being plagued with splinters told us that you favour remain so don't deny it
You'll be telling us next you didn't give us Dominic Raab as next PM