I hope they do abandon their most loyal voters for fickle "urban progressives" who will leave then for the Lib Dems or Greens at the drop of a hat, would serve them right.
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I hope they do abandon their most loyal voters for fickle "urban progressives" who will leave then for the Lib Dems or Greens at the drop of a hat, would serve them right.
Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon
Since when am I a remainer? I am hurt – wasn’t it Søren Kierkegaard who said ‘Once you label me you negate me’? It’s a bad habit.
I think there are valid arguments for both Leave and Remain. For me, the economic arguments clearly and indisputably support Remain. It's the political arguments for Leave that I find troubling and compelling.
How do square this rp
All part of the EU plan, get the sceptical Brits to move to Australia and New Zealand and replace them with Europeans who are more enthusiastic about "the project."
Common Purpose are also pushing pro-EU propaganda in their courses, their main funder is Deutsche Bank.
[QUOTE=KerrAvon;39233646]Since when am I a remainer? I am hurt – wasn’t it Søren Kierkegaard who said ‘Once you label me you negate me’? It’s a bad habit.
This is more appropriate for you Kerr
People understand me so poorly that they don't even understand my complaint about them not understanding me. Søren Kierkegaard
or was it Saga Noren
Last edited by Exiletyke; 27-05-2019 at 05:33 PM.
Corbyn and Co need to stop listening to what Islington wants and need to pick up faith with the voters north of Watford.
They either begin to support brexit or face a voter backlash that will destroy the party.
There’s not enough remain voters in the north to give them a credible chance of winning a general election.
One of the great problems of politics - apart from the careerist scoundrels who pursue it as a profession - is that it is all about slogans and shibboleths rather than analysis. Thus the entire European political class spin the nonsense of the "Four Freedoms" which is intended to make people think, Oh yes that's right and reasonable, you can't have that one without the others. It's sh*te and the politicians know it's shyte: it's a pretend equivalence whre no equivalence exists. I buy games from Hexasim in France (freedom of goods) and from Gameslore in the UK, but the game from either is identical and apart from shelf space and cost makes no demand on me: they are completely interchangeable and I choose on price and service. Same with insurance or other services. Same with capital: Money doesn't exist in any meaningful sense, it's simply a medium of exchange.
But to compare those 3 freedoms with freedom of movement is a massive, massive lie. People need housing, they need schools, they need healthcare , they need support, they impact on the environment, on sewers, on water and utility supplies. They are not f*cking the same as goods, services and capital and to pretend they are is what is facilitating the rise of populism.
A landslide victory for Brexit but the embarrassingly biased BBC refuse to accept the result,not wanting to upset their EU paymaster.
More of the BBC impartiality, Look North have got in the studio two new MEP’s, a Labour one and a Green one, both remainers.
Mind you the circus must be in town because they’ve got one of the clowns.