O/T Jeremy corbyn

[millmoormagic]

Is it really?

Where does Corbyn stand on the EU debate then?

You've basically proved my point, Labour policy hasn't changed, just because the MSM keeps telling you it has you'd rather believe that bull****.
Labour's policy(decided by conference, not Corbyn) is to honour the result, and get the best deal possible, a soft brexit if you like, what's hard about that??

[ragingpup]

Is it really?

Where does Corbyn stand on the EU debate then?

His view is to Leave with a deal, as it always has been. When has this not been his policy?

[ragingpup]

That's all well and good raging but isolating the brexit heartlands won't get Corbyn in to number 10 .

These heartlands have never had any MP's other than Labour , shyttin on your own doorstep comes with huge consequences around these parts .

The vote around here has suddenly become very competitive when it was and should be a given .

I know we disagree on figures but to me Corbyn may gather one extra vote outside of these heartlands but he risks losing five around here .

I just don't see a Labour government without this area and the like solidly on board .

Once we are sold down the river it will be incredibly difficult to get us back .

These brexit heartlands pay the Labour Party bills , it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds .

Losing 5 to one isn't what the numbers say Animal? Where do you work out losing 5 to 1 by going behind Remain? Fullfact normally are very reliable with their data

And using the message boards on here, I would say that Northern towns being Labour Heartlands has gone. The last 10 years rise of the far right and blaming of migration for their problems has put paid to that. They see Labour as to blame for the rise in migration and as a party that will protect free movement and I don't think we can count many of these people as Labour voters anymore.

Quite frankly, with the views posted by some of them on here, I don't want them in any party with me. **** em.

[millmoormagic]

Losing 5 to one isn't what the numbers say Animal? Where do you work out losing 5 to 1 by going behind Remain? Fullfact normally are very reliable with their data

And using the message boards on here, I would say that Northern towns being Labour Heartlands has gone. The last 10 years rise of the far right and blaming of migration for their problems has put paid to that. They see Labour as to blame for the rise in migration and as a party that will protect free movement and I don't think we can count many of these people as Labour voters anymore.

Quite frankly, with the views posted by some of them on here, I don't want them in any party with me. **** em.

Absolutely Pup.

[BigLadonOS]

You've basically proved my point, Labour policy hasn't changed, just because the MSM keeps telling you it has you'd rather believe that bull****.
Labour's policy(decided by conference, not Corbyn) is to honour the result, and get the best deal possible, a soft brexit if you like, what's hard about that??

I think you better keep up with the times my friend. Right now this very second he is saying that he will try to negotiate a deal and then have a 2nd referendum on that deal or leave. Only a couple of weeks ago he said he would not back a 2nd referendum under any circumstances. God knows what he will be saying next week.

[ragingpup]

I think you better keep up with the times my friend. Right now this very second he is saying that he will try to negotiate a deal and then have a 2nd referendum on that deal or leave. Only a couple of weeks ago he said he would not back a 2nd referendum under any circumstances. God knows what he will be saying next week.

He is considering that and is under huge pressure from mps and labour voters alike but it is not policy. At the moment it is the line agreed at the last conference : negotiations, general election, referendum. Link to where he has declared otherwise as policy commitment?

[animallittle3]

Losing 5 to one isn't what the numbers say Animal? Where do you work out losing 5 to 1 by going behind Remain? Fullfact normally are very reliable with their data

And using the message boards on here, I would say that Northern towns being Labour Heartlands has gone. The last 10 years rise of the far right and blaming of migration for their problems has put paid to that. They see Labour as to blame for the rise in migration and as a party that will protect free movement and I don't think we can count many of these people as Labour voters anymore.

Quite frankly, with the views posted by some of them on here, I don't want them in any party with me. **** em.

Raging I'm almost certain when I was involved with the party and Momentum that I saw a document that stated 70% of Labour held constituencies voted to leave the EU .

If I'm right , not saying I am by the way but fecking off 70% of Labour voting constituencies isn't smart .

I always felt the party was trying to marginalise the leave areas and your comment tends to emphasis that .

[BigLadonOS]

He is considering that and is under huge pressure from mps and labour voters alike but it is not policy. At the moment it is the line agreed at the last conference : negotiations, general election, referendum. Link to where he has declared otherwise as policy commitment?

That is my point. He has not openly backed the last election manifesto. Labour voters have no clue which way he will go because he will not give a firm answer one way or the other.

[BigLadonOS]

Raging I'm almost certain when I was involved with the party and Momentum that I saw a document that stated 70% of Labour held constituencies voted to leave the EU .

If I'm right , not saying I am by the way but fecking off 70% of Labour voting constituencies isn't smart .

I always felt the party was trying to marginalise the leave areas and your comment tends to emphasis that .

It was actually 66% Animal but I would not bother trying to convince anyone at this point mate because they have no clue what the realities are just there warped idea of what they think is right.

Dont forget that you are dealing with people here who do not understand what the words in or out mean.

[BigLadonOS]

Here you go boys.