O/T Jeremy corbyn

[Shark27]

You asked for my opinion. I gave it. End of.

You said I changed the goal posts when I have stuck to the same argument all along.

Anyway, at least you agree with me (that the Brexit party are not an extreme right wing organisation) which was my only concern in this discussion.

[WanChaiMiller]

You said I changed the goal posts when I have stuck to the same argument all along.

Anyway, at least you agree with me (that the Brexit party are not an extreme right wing organisation) which was my only concern in this discussion.

I think Farage has a bigger agenda than Brexit and you are a pawn.

[EasyAndEarly]

Don't think anyone in mainstream politics is close to this:

"Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe"

If left to their own devices there are some in the house / Lords that could fit the criteria.

Maggie befriending Pinochet said what side her bread was buttered. She killed unions then befriended the Polish unions the two face cast iron bee-atch that she was.....Trumps a tad to the right but the USA is very "special" indeed lol. Our politics is going their way though....Fox news reality TV...lol

All Farage says is typical of those that live in places like Page Hall....you can't comment until you lived there for a while can you.....then ....are genuine complaints racist or reasonable complaints ?

[BigLadonOS]

I said far right. Like my mum. Extreme right I think it's more neo nazi.

How would you term Farage based on those quotes? They look to be extremely disparaging of foreign groups wouldn't you say? If you were respectable tax paying Romanian /German/Chinese New would you like to be talked about in this way? Would you call it liberal? Centre right like May? Right wing like Mogg?

Is say he goes beyond the genuine concern of exploitation of cheap labour or social integration into displaying a genuine suspicion or dislike of at least some foreign groups. And his politics are largely motivated by this dislike. He's far right mate. I'm not saying you are, this is just a discussion of Farage.

What he was pointing out if you cared to do a bit of research instead of taking things at face value is that of the world of discrimination laws.

Any company that employs more than 15 people can fall fowl of this law whether they intended to or not. So lets say that a business has 15 all white local workers and the business wants to hire a 16th worker and 23 people go for the job, lets say that there are 9 foreigners out of the 23 and the boss chooses the best man for the job but he happens to be a white local lad as his 16th worker. This means that the 9 people of foreign decent can then take the business to tribunal for discrimination and they will have to justify their selection. Farage is only saying that cannot be right can it? Or does he have to hire a foreign worker that is not as good as the local lad just so he does not get taken to court for discrimination.

[BigLadonOS]

Don't doubt that Farage is extreme right?

How about his arging that employment law should be changed to allow British employers to discriminate in favour of UK workers and against Southern and Eastern migrant workers: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ip-policy.html

On Romanians: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be,” he told LBC radio during an interview.

On Germans: Asked whether he would also object to living next to German children, he said: “You know the difference.”

On immigrants in general making him very late for a meeting: “It took me six hours and 15 minutes to get here - it should have taken three-and-a-half to four,” he said. “That has nothing to do with professionalism, what it does have to do with is a country in which the population is going through the roof chiefly because of open-door immigration and the fact that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be.”

On 'friendly' terms for the Chinese, defending one of Ukip’s candidates, who used the word “ch**ky” to describe a Chinese person, Mr Farage said “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you're going for?" When he was told by the presented that he “honestly would not” use the slur, Mr Farage replied: “A lot would”.

Mr Farage has also previously said he felt uncomfortable when people spoke other language on a train.


So I would argue that by the general definition that I have put forward, Farage is no neo Nazi, by a long chalk, and such exaggerations aren't helpful, but for God's sake just admit that his politics are of the Far Right. Own that.

On Romanians: “I was asked if a group of Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned? And if you lived in London, I think you would be,” he told LBC radio during an interview.

I am sure he was asked if a group of 15 Romanian men moved in next to you, would you be concerned?

I would be concerned if 15 men of any race creed or colour moved in next door to me as I am sure most would be.

On 'friendly' terms for the Chinese, defending one of Ukip’s candidates, who used the word “ch**ky” to describe a Chinese person, Mr Farage said “If you and your mates were going out for a Chinese, what do you say you're going for?" When he was told by the presented that he “honestly would not” use the slur, Mr Farage replied: “A lot would”.

I say it regular and I do not have a racist bone in my body.

You should really try to find better weapons to fight a war with or you are sure to lose the fight.

[rolymiller]

I never said brexit was a nazi party but I am trying to warn folks that it is a far rights party on par with thatchers party. If you don't mind that fair enough but for you ex labour voters out there who suffered under thatcher stopnand think. Do you want a thatcher type govt in power calling the shots bearing in mind what happened in theb80s and 90s. Seriously? Like I have said before the brexit party is not a neutral or left leaning partyIf you vote for them and you are a working class guy or gal this will bite you on the ar SE. You have been fooled and farage is the master of it.

If you are a wealthy guy on here then fair enough you could make a few quid out of farage.

[Stovicmiller]

I've often used the word chinky to describe a takeaway. Romanians living next door to me would ot be bothered at all.

[Stovicmiller]

I've had drug dealers, Billy burglar and a couple of knuckle draggers next door to me so a couple of nice migrants would be great.

[BigLadonOS]

I never said brexit was a nazi party but I am trying to warn folks that it is a far rights party on par with thatchers party. If you don't mind that fair enough but for you ex labour voters out there who suffered under thatcher stopnand think. Do you want a thatcher type govt in power calling the shots bearing in mind what happened in theb80s and 90s. Seriously? Like I have said before the brexit party is not a neutral or left leaning partyIf you vote for them and you are a working class guy or gal this will bite you on the ar SE. You have been fooled and farage is the master of it.

If you are a wealthy guy on here then fair enough you could make a few quid out of farage.

When the Brexit party publish it's (manifesto for want of a better word until Nige says what he is going to call it) is the time to argue your point not when there is no proof of what you are saying just your point of view of what it could or could not be.

[KerrAvon]

I said far right. Like my mum. Extreme right I think it's more neo nazi.

How would you term Farage based on those quotes? They look to be extremely disparaging of foreign groups wouldn't you say? If you were respectable tax paying Romanian /German/Chinese New would you like to be talked about in this way? Would you call it liberal? Centre right like May? Right wing like Mogg?

Is say he goes beyond the genuine concern of exploitation of cheap labour or social integration into displaying a genuine suspicion or dislike of at least some foreign groups. And his politics are largely motivated by this dislike. He's far right mate. I'm not saying you are, this is just a discussion of Farage.

If Farage wanted to know what a tax paying German thinks about his views, he could always ask his wife.