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Thread: Asghar statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shedboy1971 View Post
    This is what i dont get its the same type of football that JMac played at end of his tenure and we have had multiple managers doing the same. Is it pressure from the stands that creates this negative type of play? If so surely one manager would have the balls to play attacking. I believe this would galvanise the support more. Years of rotten football from Mixu, Ray, Csaba and now Robbie has created a terrible feeling amopngst the fans
    The tippy tappy 4-2-3-1 stuff is what they teach at Largs (or wherever the courses are now) for coaching badges

    I always mind being told that when studying the badges at Largs, the UK based ones at the end of the day go to the pub, the foreign coaches, sit in the dining room or their own room, working out tactics, positioning and all manner of extra stuff to help them improve as coach/manager, rather than hitting up the pub.

    Hard to argue with that when you see the same formation being used time and again by head coaches/managers and not just at Utd

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    So, 3 defeats and 3 draws. How many wins did we have during that spell?

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    Certainly looks tactically niaive with no thought other than side way passing - also think you need a certain quality of player for the posession football. You know ones that can trap a ball, find a pass, create channels and distribute to strikers. everything we lack

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    So, 3 defeats and 3 draws. How many wins did we have during that spell?
    Do you not see points dropped as something that impacted on our challenge?! Points dropped has nothing whatsoever to do with points won! The quality of football was an issue, still is and that's what fans are concerned about. Performance and results.

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    What a pointless reply stoke just because I said you were talking keech (and stand by it), are you saying that when he came in we should have been flawless and not had any dropped pts even before the transfer window?? Are you that unrealistic, this is not football manager, the fact is his pts per game so far is enough to suggest we'd have been close to being champs, for me I'd say we would have been as County would have had real pressure on them for most of the season but we'll never know... Hopefully his first full league season which starts next Saturday is a successful one

    You clearly want Neilson out though and have been hugely negative all close season, let's hope in a couple months that's not the case, it means we'll be doing well

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    What a pointless reply stoke just because I said you were talking keech (and stand by it), are you saying that when he came in we should have been flawless and not had any dropped pts even before the transfer window?? Are you that unrealistic, this is not football manager, the fact is his pts per game so far is enough to suggest we'd have been close to being champs, for me I'd say we would have been as County would have had real pressure on them for most of the season but we'll never know... Hopefully his first full league season which starts next Saturday is a successful one

    You clearly want Neilson out though and have been hugely negative all close season, let's hope in a couple months that's not the case, it means we'll be doing well

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    The personal attacks on me just because I don't share your at times blinkered views are unwarranted. And you obviously don't take time to read my posts properly because I've said many times I don't want Neilson out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    What a pointless reply stoke just because I said you were talking keech (and stand by it), are you saying that when he came in we should have been flawless and not had any dropped pts even before the transfer window?? Are you that unrealistic, this is not football manager, the fact is his pts per game so far is enough to suggest we'd have been close to being champs, for me I'd say we would have been as County would have had real pressure on them for most of the season but we'll never know... Hopefully his first full league season which starts next Saturday is a successful one

    You clearly want Neilson out though and have been hugely negative all close season, let's hope in a couple months that's not the case, it means we'll be doing well

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    Shedka, as I’ve said numerous times in the other threads, we dropped those precious points (with the exception of QoS) because we started each of those games with a negative approach, 1 up front, and never pressed the opposition from kick-off, allowing them to gain confidence, and either win or draw.
    Several of them were also at key stages where we had the opportunity to get back into contention for the league, but failed, handing the initiative to our competitors.
    While very frustrating losing to QoS at Tannadice, we at least threw everything but the kitchen sink at them, but it was one of those days, where we could just not catch a break, and you just have to take it on the chin. I would rather drop points with that approach, than our usual tippy-tappy p!sh, and had we taken that attacking approach in all of those other games, I can guarantee you, we would have dropped very little points, and possibly won the league.

    We simply cannot go into this league campaign handing the initiative to other teams like last season. There is only one person who can influence this.....

    I’m not calling for his head, but if he takes the same approach as last year, and we start dropping points early, because nothing has changed (other than personnel), then I’m sorry, but I will be wanting a new manager, and anyone who actually has the desire to win games by playing attacking football. You can only win games by scoring goals, so why not get in early, it’s not rocket science!

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    Nothing will change if we continue with....
    1. One up front
    2. Playing Paul Mcmullen
    3.Playing Clark as a number 10
    4. Playing Sam Stanton

    If were 5pts or more off the pace after the Dundee game Neilson will be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballumbie_arab View Post
    ...I can guarantee you, we would have dropped very little points, and possibly won the league.
    No you can't. 🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    no one can argue aboot the change off the park shedka, but on the park whats really changed? Nothing. Still boring tippy tappy sideways sh1te
    ^^^^ This
    Forget about the statements and get the manager to work with the team on playing attacking, forward thinking, attractive football which will get results and bums on seats. Otherwise I fear this season will mirror the last.

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