Rangers Then, Sevco Now, Scotland's Shame Forever....

[ZakkTheMakk]

Admittedly Celtic at the back are no great shakes but after watching them a couple of times this year its safe to say that they'll have too much speed, guile, innovation and finishing for our ropey defence. Remember we can't keep clean sheets against most teams we've faced already and none have been close to how Celtic can perform.

Rangers are a different beast altogether as they're looking to make statements this year, they're scoring for fun and defending better so with both those things in mind then yeah, I'll honestly be surprised if we get any points from them this year.

I don't think the top two will be like Man City and Liverpool last year with 98 and 97 points respectively but I think they'll both easily be in the high 80's - low 90's with 3rd coming in with mid to high 60's points wise.

Of course I hope I'm wrong but with 9 in a row at stake then both teams wont let their guard down as they may have done in seasons past

[Red Zone]

Admittedly Celtic at the back are no great shakes but after watching them a couple of times this year its safe to say that they'll have too much speed, guile, innovation and finishing for our ropey defence. Remember we can't keep clean sheets against most teams we've faced already and none have been close to how Celtic can perform.

Rangers are a different beast altogether as they're looking to make statements this year, they're scoring for fun and defending better so with both those things in mind then yeah, I'll honestly be surprised if we get any points from them this year.

I don't think the top two will be like Man City and Liverpool last year with 98 and 97 points respectively but I think they'll both easily be in the high 80's - low 90's with 3rd coming in with mid to high 60's points wise.

Of course I hope I'm wrong but with 9 in a row at stake then both teams wont let their guard down as they may have done in seasons past

I agree the two of them will sail off into the distance but if they are going to drop 25 or so points based on your numbers then for sure we will be one of the teams to take points off of them. I'm still to be entirely convinced on sevco away from iprix as remember it took a last minute goal to beat a poor Killie team

[ZakkTheMakk]

25 points dropped doesn't necessarily mean that we'll be the ones to take points off them. Think of the 25 points as being 6 dropped if they both beat each other, say 2-3 other losses throughout the year being another 6-9 points and already you're at 12-15 points dropped. 5 drawn games throughout the course of the season isn't unthinkable and that's you at 25 points.

That would be 38 games played, 29 wins, 4 losses and 5 draws for total points of 92 with the other team having 38-28-5-5 for 89 points.

So you're looking at the victors losing twice in the league outwith their derby and drawing 5 games. 7 games in total when Celtic have the hoodoo over us and Rangers wanting to beat their fiercest rivals aside of Celtic..... Yeah I can see us garnering 0 points from our 8 games against them. Hurts to say but I'd be more shocked if it didn't happen than if it did

[ZakkTheMakk]

I'm not sure if you are Mr Negative or not but I would suggest you are not Mr Realist. We'll be doing well to get less than 2014/15 when we got zero points against them (I know, I know sevco weren't in the league)!!

I agree that the cups is our only chance of success this year but I would be fairly confident if we don't get to the semi we won't lose to a Caley/Hamilton type team and remember arithmetically there is a 50/50 chance that celtic/sevco end up in the same half of the draw so a cup final place is open for a team like us

Currently at 50 mins in against Dundee and trailing 1-0 going on 2/3-0, I hope my seeing eye has it wrong but my belief that a Caley/Hamilton team would dump is out is scarily close to becoming reality.

[darrendons]

Currently at 50 mins in against Dundee and trailing 1-0 going on 2/3-0, I hope my seeing eye has it wrong but my belief that a Caley/Hamilton team would dump is out is scarily close to becoming reality.

Someone said we had found our level at European QR3.

After today, i think it was more Division 3

[Red Zone]

Currently at 50 mins in against Dundee and trailing 1-0 going on 2/3-0, I hope my seeing eye has it wrong but my belief that a Caley/Hamilton team would dump is out is scarily close to becoming reality.

Nah min, it was never in doubt. My seeing eye is saying We are now going to lose to either hertz in the quarters or Celtic/sevco in the semi

[Aldo1983]

It's the cheeks game on Sunday. It'll be Doncaster ramming it up to get a new sponsor interested. We'd all be as well not playing.

[sonofrgmsdad]

and remember arithmetically there is a 50/50 chance that celtic/sevco end up in the same half of the draw so a cup final place is open for a team like us

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Best i've heard in ages. Arithmetic is not a strong point at Scottish football headquarters! ��������������������������

[Red Zone]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Best i've heard in ages. Arithmetic is not a strong point at Scottish football headquarters! ��������������������������

In the last ten domestic cups Celtic and sevco have been in the same side of the draw seven times. There is enough bias in Scottish football towards the ugly sisters but recent draws suggest that they are not rigged towards a Celtic sevco final

[afc1903mad]

It's the cheeks game on Sunday. It'll be Doncaster ramming it up to get a new sponsor interested. We'd all be as well not playing.

It’s nae often your correct, but you’re wrong again.

SevCo are away to St Mirren
Celtic are at home to Hearts