Bolton/Bury

[Returnofrros]

think that's a bit harsh on Aberdeen as there were a lot of changes at the time and they didn't vote against important issues such as reconstruction, enhanced parachute payments and re-distribution of prize money to the SFL, which would see SFL 1 clubs pick up 10 times the prize money the SFL were giving them at the time. These were the real benefits to come out of Rangers' demise, as we're seeing now we're down. To change 11-1 to 9-3 could have seen reintroduction of gate receipts being shared which any fair-minded individual would argue really isn't fair on the bigger clubs. I think that would have completely unbalanced the game at the time, with 4th tier teams playing Rangers, for example, receiving hundreds of thousands of pounds to do nothing with. Anyway, that's my take on it. As for Bury, they've been kicked out the EFL, but they are still intact for now and can look to join one of the pyramid leagues and get back up, same as AFC Wimbledon and Salford City. So it's not the end for them. I think Bolton are phukked, too much debt

I'd go for some form of shared gate.

I'd love to ask Celtic rangers fans where they see their clubs in the next decade.

Celtic going for 20?.....if they ain't gonna get to the top table in Europe surely even there fans can see a bit more of a competitive league is good....if your a football fan.

Still thinks it's better if they go but to where is the question.

Just to add I shared my pool knowledge with jdfc last time we played and only won 11-1 instead of the usual granny.....bit more competitive....without altering general status quo......no really much to do with topic but I really ****ing enjoyed typing that.😎

[Returnofrros]

I think highly unlikely due to cross border aspect, FIFA and UEFA try to avoid that outside own competitions. It would need to eb some form of breakaway and on islands this size i do think there's no chance.

Football as we know it is dying, the top levels are becoming behemoths and the rest of us after the crumbs. I hear people in pubs arguing about VAR and being super experts without having gone to a game in the last decade. The beauty of football was always that it was the same game everywhere, now it is not with various rules and regulation changes. Not sure we can ever get it back now.

Those people seem to "love" the English premier league but laugh at Scottish football....I don't get it.

Boy told me the other day he hates man city but loves man u as they are the underdog and live within their means.....irony seemed completely lost on him.

[Mudskipper]

The whole game down south is like a house of cards ,TV money is bonkers and the media are constantly telling us it's the best league in the world which it isn't.
The theory is that the money from the top clubs filter down to the grass roots as they like to keep telling us ,a bit like our political system as it stands ,this of course doesn't happen as Bury have found out ,not sure how Bolton got into so much debt but I believe Bury FC is predominantly owed to HMRC.
Won't be the last but might take a big scalp to go into admin to force some change ,however with parachute payments hitting near £100 million the blow is softened and so the cycle continues.

[Mudskipper]

Those people seem to "love" the English premier league but laugh at Scottish football....I don't get it.

Boy told me the other day he hates man city but loves man u as they are the underdog and live within their means.....irony seemed completely lost on him.

I can only guess the boy you were speaking to was one the the prawn sandwich brigade that Roy Keane spoke of ,I have followed Man United since the 76 cup final as a wee impressionable laddie , they were a mid table team then at best.
Yes certainly irony on his behalf as the glazers have the club in millions of debt albeit serviceable up to now.
15 years ago you couldn't buy a City top in Scotland never mind Dundee....

[Returnofrros]

I can only guess the boy you were speaking to was one the the prawn sandwich brigade that Roy Keane spoke of ,I have followed Man United since the 76 cup final as a wee impressionable laddie , they were a mid table team then at best.
Yes certainly irony on his behalf as the glazers have the club in millions of debt albeit serviceable up to now.
15 years ago you couldn't buy a City top in Scotland never mind Dundee....

He's a dab season ticket holder, maybe that excuses him, clueless.....the lot of them.

[Mudskipper]

He's a dab season ticket holder, maybe that excuses him, clueless.....the lot of them.

Yeh that clears that up ....incidentally Man U lost that final.....

I've always been troubled when speaking about Man U ,I could never refer to them as Utd for obvious reasons...never shouted come on Utd when watching them.....funny I was in the minority then as everyone followed Liverpool or strangely Villa but they were quite successful back then 'went to school with a Barnsley fan fcuk knows where he came from......probably Barnsley....

[Returnofrros]

Yeh that clears that up ....incidentally Man U lost that final.....

I've always been troubled when speaking about Man U ,I could never refer to them as Utd for obvious reasons...never shouted come on Utd when watching them.....funny I was in the minority then as everyone followed Liverpool or strangely Villa but they were quite successful back then 'went to school with a Barnsley fan fcuk knows where he came from......probably Barnsley....

When I was 10 our Sunday league team went to Manchester for a week, played a couple of games and trained with man city youths, well got to kick a ball about for half n hour with them.

We were taken to a lpool v man u game (midweek night game) at lpool, in the away end right at the back.

Stupidest place ever to take a group of boys, was mayhem.

The segregation was only about 5 or 6 yards and barriers about 4 foot high.

[_JG_]

Those people seem to "love" the English premier league but laugh at Scottish football....I don't get it.

Boy told me the other day he hates man city but loves man u as they are the underdog and live within their means.....irony seemed completely lost on him.

man city disgusting club.sportswashing at its finest

[_JG_]

The whole game down south is like a house of cards ,TV money is bonkers and the media are constantly telling us it's the best league in the world which it isn't..

what is the best league in the world ?

[Returnofrros]

what is the best league in the world ?

How do you define it though?

I enjoy watching the Spanish....is it the best? How do you measure it?