O/T Democracy

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

John Healey also voted against Boris. Represent your constituents you self serving ****.

He’s never done that so why break the habit of a lifetime?

He’s the original duck with the red rosette

Just seen that Labour now don’t want a general election.

Wise move for once on their part, avoiding a drubbing in the polls.

[WanChaiMiller]

What a load of bollix WCM watch the video I posted above. Technology already exists but remainers and the EU will not accept that it does just so they can keep us in the EU. Democracy in this country means nothing to these traitors and cowards.

How can technology exist to create both an open and closed border. You are talking complete rubbish. Johnsin is pulling your plonk*r.

[WanChaiMiller]

2 Minutes in. You might find this interesting.

Ok Biglad.

Trusted traders - what process does it involve? Means you dont have a single Ireland economy that the Good Friday Agreement requires if only trusted traders can trade across the border.

Pre Clearing - is still clearing through customs but just not at the border. So actually isnt an open border - its a customs border.

Checks for contraband. Wherever its done it is still checks before good move. So not an open border.

UK wont put barriers in place - trading under WTO requires good to clear through customs. If we leave without a deal it is not in our control to allow this.

Like I say he is pulling your plonk*r.

[BigLadonOS]

How can technology exist to create both an open and closed border. You are talking complete rubbish. Johnsin is pulling your plonk*r.

Ask yourself this question. If there are no borders between EU countries why do I have to go through passport checks to get in to Portugal? If that does not count as a border why can we not have passport checks between northern Ireland and mainland UK? That way it does not effect anything on the ROI side and keeps the existing none border checks between NI and the ROI.

[BigLadonOS]

Ok Biglad.

Trusted traders - what process does it involve? Means you dont have a single Ireland economy that the Good Friday Agreement requires if only trusted traders can trade across the border.

Pre Clearing - is still clearing through customs but just not at the border. So actually isnt an open border - its a customs border.

Checks for contraband. Wherever its done it is still checks before good move. So not an open border.

UK wont put barriers in place - trading under WTO requires good to clear through customs. If we leave without a deal it is not in our control to allow this.

Like I say he is pulling your plonk*r.

Are you a ****ing idiot or what! there already is no single Ireland economy as NI is sterling and the ROI is Euro's.

Are you suggesting that there are no checks already in force for goods etc from the EU between any other countries even inside the EU? You are dumb mate and do not have a clue what you are talking about.

[flourbasher]

It would now be appropriate to require all MP,s to declare any business interests they have with the EU and If I were Boris I'd be starting with his own (ex) MP,s who didn't back him.

We,ve had an investigation into expenses and we should now do the same to establish what their real motives are

[WanChaiMiller]

Ask yourself this question. If there are no borders between EU countries why do I have to go through passport checks to get in to Portugal? If that does not count as a border why can we not have passport checks between northern Ireland and mainland UK? That way it does not effect anything on the ROI side and keeps the existing none border checks between NI and the ROI.

There is no border customs border for goods within the EU zone.

People are allowed free unrestricted travel. Checks are to sift out non EU nationals from EU national.

If we have no checks in Ireland it means EU nationals can enter Britain unrestricted - exactly what brexiteers want to see an end of.

I think its a question you need to ask yourself.

[BigLadonOS]

There is no border customs border for goods within the EU zone.

People are allowed free unrestricted travel. Checks are to sift out non EU nationals from EU national.

If we have no checks in Ireland it means EU nationals can enter Britain unrestricted - exactly what brexiteers want to see an end of.

I think its a question you need to ask yourself.

I think you need to first understand what the **** you are talking about before writing such stupid things as you have done here. If passport checks at ports do not count against free movement then how could it be against free movement between the RIO and NI?

What you seem to not be getting here is that Goods and free movement through the Irish border are two totally different things. Checks on goods already happen and these would continue whatever happens even if we stayed in the EU because goods still need to be checked via the rules of the EU goods laws. How else could you guarantee that any goods have passed EU standards otherwise?

The way you are talking you think that a company in Portugal can can load a van of chicken and get all the way to the RIO without it being checked that it is indeed a van load of chicken that has passed EU standards! That is not how it works so stop being so ****ing stupid.

[WanChaiMiller]

Are you a ****ing idiot or what! there already is no single Ireland economy as NI is sterling and the ROI is Euro's.

Are you suggesting that there are no checks already in force for goods etc from the EU between any other countries even inside the EU? You are dumb mate and do not have a clue what you are talking about.

There is a single ireland of Ireland economy as laid out in the Good Friday Agreement.

There are no customs checks on goods moving within the single market.

There are customs checks on goods if you import / export outside the EU.

Pretty basic stuff. Who is the f*cking idiot?

[BigLadonOS]

There is a single ireland of Ireland economy as laid out in the Good Friday Agreement.

There are no customs checks on goods moving within the single market.

There are customs checks on goods if you import / export outside the EU.

Pretty basic stuff. Who is the f*cking idiot?

You really do not have a clue do you.