Bruce as Manager

[ghostrider]

Well I suppose you can live and dream but if your that confident of a 9th place finish lump as much money as you can afford on as you’ll get around 11/1

That's what I always do. I live and dream. I always have hope that something will change for the better.
I've had many downers supporting Newcastle United, as we all have and I've despaired many a time. There's been times I've tried to take positives from games and couldn't find any.
Most of them have been under Rafa and I'm not kidding.

I don’t recall Rafa having £40 million and £20 million players at his disposal though.

He had plenty of money to spend and spent it unwisely, leaving him with the scrapings to finish off with. Joselu was his scraping....but...He chose Spanish players and players he had no intention of playing. It was his fault he blew his money.

Apparently Joelinton was on the radar for Rafa and he had the opportunity to buy him but refused because he wasn't committed to the club, it appears. Whether there's a full truth in that, is up for debate.
I personally think Rafa had many opportunities to buy bigger. I think he played the fans and the club and showed it by already having a deal done in China.
Look at the players he chose to buy and basically put them on the scrapheap. That was criminal in itself.

I don't think Bruce has signed most of these players. I think they were all in the pipeline before he came.
I can't back any of it up with facts but can anyone shoot it all down with facts, or is it all a reliance on the norm of speculation between everyone?

We had to put up with Joselu Bruce has spent huge sums of money before the season started so let see what transpires I just wish I had your faith.

Bruce has had little to spend if we want to hark back to the arguments that were rife for Rafa's spends not being net in his time.
Swings and roundabouts.
The difference is, Rafa was paid a kings ransom to do nothing more than what an average manager could've achieved with that squad, in my opinion.

Bruce is on a hiding to nothing.

If he does well it's because he was lucky to have all these new players.
If he struggles with relegation or close to it, even if he keeps us up by the skin of his teeth, it's because he's a championship manager or clueless or bought duff players...etc....etc.

If he managed to do well this season and get us into Europe the next he'd be cast off as simply just being lucky...like Pardew was, apparently, with some fans.

As for having my faith. Anyone can have it. It's called hope. Even if it's cast off as blind hope, it's better than looking at the next match as a defeat or simply not being interested until big changes are made to the owner/manager and players...for bigger and better...because that's what this all boils down to.

Too many people seem to be living off the past with rose tinted specs and forget just how much the premier league has changed due to sugar daddies bankrolling certain clubs to be almost untouchable and are fuming because we can't have a sheikh type owner or a cash splasher...to the raw end where some fans would actually take a double relegation in order to get rid of an owner who apparently runs the club just fine but not quite fine enough and yet a double relegation seems to be ultra fine.

Crowds of about 10,000/20,000 would be the norm under that scenario with some new owner(s) spending pennies just to keep a sensible push and incurring the wrath of the fans for not going gung ho to get us back into the premier league. But so what...Ashley would be gone.

Apparently the fans that shout " we'll support you evermore" are the problem with the club because they're stopping those that really love the club, who have chosen to abandon it of their support...from getting their own way and ridding it of being run efficiently.
You just can't make this stuff up.