Expected post match interview vs reality

[JoePass]

Didn't catch the interview today but he can say and be as miserable as he wants after a win.

Great result and personally I did think we missed Doyle, he does more work than some people appreciate.

[St Kitts Magpie]

Great result and personally I did think we missed Doyle, he does more work than some people appreciate.

Logical considered opinion.. wait for the abuse

[pielover]

Logical considered opinion.. wait for the abuse

No abuse from me, and its not about bashing Ardley per se I just really struggle with his hard on for Doyle.

As for considered....

With Doyle on the pitch our record is: L D D W L D D W?

Well that actually flatters him a little because that last win was against Halifax. It was 0-0 when Doyle got red carded and we were a much better team without him. So effectively 1 win in 7 (and that was against a knackered Chorley... I could have played in midfield & we'd still have won).


Without Doyle D L W L W W

So 3 wins in 6 without him. Interestingly that first defeat we had Dunn in midfield because Booty wasn't signed at that point. In fact when playing together in the centre I believe Booty & Rose are 3 for 3.


But, as someone mentioned earlier in thread Doyle will walk back into the side. Doesn't make sense, especially when we have players who will be our future ready to go. It feels like limited thinking to me, that's all.

[matt_magpie]

have I missed something I thought he was absolutely bang on, thought the whole midfield maybe with the exception of Rose were blowing second half. Personally I think Doyle has been very decent this season, missed him taking the ball at the back and playing it forward to feet, hence why we went long a lot more.

[St Kitts Magpie]

No abuse from me, and its not about bashing Ardley per se I just really struggle with his hard on for Doyle.

As for considered....

With Doyle on the pitch our record is: L D D W L D D W?

Well that actually flatters him a little because that last win was against Halifax. It was 0-0 when Doyle got red carded and we were a much better team without him. So effectively 1 win in 7 (and that was against a knackered Chorley... I could have played in midfield & we'd still have won).


Without Doyle D L W L W W

So 3 wins in 6 without him. Interestingly that first defeat we had Dunn in midfield because Booty wasn't signed at that point. In fact when playing together in the centre I believe Booty & Rose are 3 for 3.


But, as someone mentioned earlier in thread Doyle will walk back into the side. Doesn't make sense, especially when we have players who will be our future ready to go. It feels like limited thinking to me, that's all.

Certainly no hard on from me regarding Doyle.. I see what he gives the team as mentioned earlier. personally dont think the problem is any of the individuals in midfield independently , its the Rose , JOB ,Doyle trio together that is the problem for me. together they are very similar and dont allow any of the wide men to play.. Recently we have played 4-4-2 and that seems to work .. not sure on the breakdown but usually 1 of the 3 is missing when we win (except Chorley and counting Halifax as without Doyle)

[pielover]

Certainly no hard on from me regarding Doyle.. I see what he gives the team as mentioned earlier. personally dont think the problem is any of the individuals in midfield independently , its the Rose , JOB ,Doyle trio together that is the problem for me. together they are very similar and dont allow any of the wide men to play.. Recently we have played 4-4-2 and that seems to work .. not sure on the breakdown but usually 1 of the 3 is missing when we win (except Chorley and counting Halifax as without Doyle)

Agreed, problem is it appears to be Doyle and 1 other. The stats sort of suggest we're very marginally less likely to lose with Doyle but quite a lot more likely to win with him off it. Now thats obviously a sweeping statement but it also does a good job of describing NA's way of playing football.

All this is besides the point that he's been sent off twice. Thats partly what bugs me about him being brought up today. He's club captain and he's let his team down.... twice. Meanwhile, others are getting the job done. Doyle, to my mind, should be in the doghouse not being lauded as missed.

[BigFatPie]

No abuse from me, and its not about bashing Ardley per se I just really struggle with his hard on for Doyle.

As for considered....

With Doyle on the pitch our record is: L D D W L D D W?

Well that actually flatters him a little because that last win was against Halifax. It was 0-0 when Doyle got red carded and we were a much better team without him. So effectively 1 win in 7 (and that was against a knackered Chorley... I could have played in midfield & we'd still have won).


Without Doyle D L W L W W

So 3 wins in 6 without him. Interestingly that first defeat we had Dunn in midfield because Booty wasn't signed at that point. In fact when playing together in the centre I believe Booty & Rose are 3 for 3.


But, as someone mentioned earlier in thread Doyle will walk back into the side. Doesn't make sense, especially when we have players who will be our future ready to go. It feels like limited thinking to me, that's all.

My perception is that our results are much worse with Doyle in the side. Kin ell we won a half with 10 men after he’d been sent off.

From what I’ve seen he slows things down when the key thing in this league is to get the ball forward as soon as possible. The frustrating thing is that he will walk back into the side at the expense of someone who doesn’t deserve to be dropped.

[bridpie78]

My perception is that our results are much worse with Doyle in the side. Kin ell we won a half with 10 men after he’d been sent off.

From what I’ve seen he slows things down when the key thing in this league is to get the ball forward as soon as possible. The frustrating thing is that he will walk back into the side at the expense of someone who doesn’t deserve to be dropped.

Totally agree, he should earn his spot backfrom the bench, why mix up a team thats winning games what message does that send out to the guys who are winning us points right now, also he's 38 he probably wont be with us next season i'm happier seeing our younger players getting games, yes they'll make mistakes but it'll pay off for next season when they'll be more experienced
I would like to see him as a sub , an older more experienced head to play less minutes be used when that experience could be best utilised at the back end of tight games.

[Killerkline]

Great result and personally I did think we missed Doyle, he does more work than some people appreciate.

Completely agree with this. Yes, of course we miss Jim. Doyle is a big loss - in my humble opinion.