Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
Sinkov, I have been watching your Brexit journey over the years.

First you supported Nigels super "better deal than we have now without paying the EU a penny" offer.

Then you supported Thesesa's Mansion House version.

Then you objected to the real Theresa deal (i remember you saying that you would prefer to remain)

Now you support a no deal Brexit.

You have changed your mind several times, which is perfectly fine. You are in good company with Boris and Nigel on that.

So how do we know that others haven't changed their minds too? Perhaps they really wanted Boris and Nigel's version (I would too, but it was never going to happen) and perhaps these people haven't changed their minds enough to support no deal.

How do we find out their current thoughts?

Simple, ask them. Don't force on them something totally different to what you were selling in 2016.

YOU might be happy with the change of offer but plenty of others may not be.
I see, like all Remoaners, your assumed powers of clairvoyance remain undimmed 59, it's a remarkable talent but it's leading you astray. You really shouldn't assume that any of my comments on the various stages this process had reached indicate any change of mind on my part. I think I'm old enough to know my own mind and I can assure you it hasn't changed at all.

This is the situation. We were asked by the government, with parliamentary approval, to vote on whether we wanted to remain in the EU. We voted to leave. The only way to leave was by A50 of the EU's Treaty of Rome, this was perfectly clear at the time, everyone knew that this was the process. A50 was enacted, again with parliamentary approval, and this said that the EU had two years to negotiate a WA with us or we left without one. There is no agreed WA, the two years are up, the EU says there can be no further negotiations on the WA, so the duly lawful process is that we leave without one.

You and your Remoaner chums can wriggle and squirm all you like 59, you can hold any view you like, as can I, you can lie through your teeth, you can throw Erskine May out of the window, you can overturn centuries of parliamentary procedures and conventions in an attempt to overturn the referendum result, you can fantasise about the terrible prospect of life outside the EU, it makes no difference, the above is the actual situation we are in, and it is crystal clear what the correct procedure is, correct legally and morally, and that is we leave the EU without a WA on October 31st.

And that is not the outcome I wanted, but that is what should now happen, and I want no more and no less than what should happen, does happen.