Lawrence and Bennett...

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Am I stupid? Jeez...will you listen to yourself? I’d call you embarrassing but you can’t even spell the word.

Where have I said they’re ‘innocent’? Where have I defended them? That’s just what you’d like me to have said and done.

For the record then.

Everyone is ‘innocent until proven guilty’. The case hasn’t yet gone to court and I will reserve my judgement until we know a lot more.
From what we on here know it looks very bad for them and I’d have preferred them not to have been selected last night, but I’m sure Cocu knows more than me - and dare I say it, even you - about exactly what happened and it was his decision.

Would I have selected them? No...but people with more information than you or I decided to select players still contracted to DCFC who have yet to be convicted of a driving offence.

IMO...drinking and driving...like speeding is more complex than it sometimes seems. For instance...again just imo...driving at 40mph in a 30 mph limit or outside a school is a more serious offence than driving at 70 mph on a dual carriageway in a 60 mph limit.
Likewise driving when ‘hammered’ is a far more serious offence than driving when marginally over the limit.
At the moment we have all seen pictures of Mason Bennett looking ‘wrecked’ and seemingly totally unfit to drive. We haven’t seen any such pictures of Lawrence.
If they were over the limit both were in the wrong - I’ll say that again slowly just for you...’both were in the wrong’ - but we don’t know the full details yet so let’s wait and see and reserve judgement till we do.

Football is littered with examples of overpaid prima donnas behaving badly...Gazza, Stan Collymore, George Best to name but three...but where were you when Rooney, YaYa Toure, Lloris and Drinkwater were all recently done for the same offence?
Answer...nowhere...absolutely nothing to say. Why? Because all you’re interested in is finding a stick to beat Derby County with.
You aren’t angry, like macstheman, because the players look like they’ve done wrong and have let the club down, you’re actually delighted because you’ve been provided with some free ammunition to have a pop at Derby with.

Also for the record...it seems Rooney, Toure and Lloris all played in the next game having been arrested for drinking and driving...indeed Hugo Lloris is still captain of both club and country I believe. I’m not saying that makes it right but let’s not pretend, as you would love to, that this is just a Derby County problem.

Finally, if and when - possibly in about eleven days time - these players are found guilty of dangerous driving while under the influence of alcohol, or whatever the eventual charge is, then the situation will have changed and I may well agree with Swale and mac about the need to get rid of them. Until then it is not up to either you, me or the club to play judge and jury and I suggest you shut up about something we are all jumping to conclusions about and await the verdict.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???

Of course it's up to the club to judge them

1. They was on a club bonding day
2. They got hammered and pictures all over social media
3. They ignored the clubs offered curtosy transport
4. they broke the law KNOWING they had been drinking and were suspect in their actions
5. Publically a scene occurs involving a RTI, which entails police attendance
6.Police attendence ends in arrest and charges laid.

Whether they have been convicted yet or not, their very actions have bought the club into disrepute and embarressed it.
They should be suspended until CLEARED OR SENTENCED.
Anything else is an affront to what happens in other places of work.

And no smart arse. I'm not just saying this because it's DCFC. If it was my clubs players, I'd still be screaming.
Footballers are role models, like it or not.They set precedents and provide examples for youngsters.
They failed and so has the club.

You can say what you want, you are soft soaping this. But this is a classic example of the pampering of footballers and their prima dona status. What if it was a policeman/fireman/nurse/forces official? Would you still be so soft?
I hope they suspended sentences at least, if and when found guilty. Contrary to what Stenson wants, if they have failed the test at the station, then they are guilty. They don't prosecute without that one.
If the rumours are to be believed, there may be an issue of a dope test failure as well here.
If that is true, then jail the culpret and a ban.

Only after answering for it, would I consider them off the hook.