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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    I agree with a lot of that Army.

    And if you will accept that in no way was I implying that anyone on here is racist then I'm happy.

    I could have brought up the fact that the under 50's largely voted remain and a lot of other interesting voter profiles but I think I will let it lie
    You could have brought up the fact that one third of LibDem voters voted to leave, but you let that one lie. Is it just that one third of LibDems are aging racists, or is there another reason for them voting to leave ? Why would you rather discuss the motives of BNP supporters (the few hundred of them) rather than your own ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    You could have brought up the fact that one third of LibDem voters voted to leave, but you let that one lie. Is it just that one third of LibDems are aging racists, or is there another reason for them voting to leave ? Why would you rather discuss the motives of BNP supporters (the few hundred of them) rather than your own ?
    i'm happy to discuss the Lib Dem leavers Sinkov.

    We have several members of our local party who are Brexiteers and we have had a few debates about Brexit. There is not one specific reason why they want Brexit but we chat about it in a respectful way without any hint of animosity.

    I the Lib Dems all policy is voted on by the members at conferences. Whatever the members vote for becomes party policy. I recently voted against a couple of policy motions at conference and was on the losing side.

    But we believe that political parties should state clearly what it's policies are - even if they are at variance with current public opinion.

    If all parties created policies based solely on public opinion then they would all share a common manifesto.

    So Brexiteers within the party are encouraged to voice their views and, at the end of the day, the party members will decide.

    Seems like a very fair way to go about your business?

    As a result of brexit many have left the party while still more new recruits have joined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    i'm happy to discuss the Lib Dem leavers Sinkov.

    We have several members of our local party who are Brexiteers and we have had a few debates about Brexit. There is not one specific reason why they want Brexit but we chat about it in a respectful way without any hint of animosity.

    I the Lib Dems all policy is voted on by the members at conferences. Whatever the members vote for becomes party policy. I recently voted against a couple of policy motions at conference and was on the losing side.

    But we believe that political parties should state clearly what it's policies are - even if they are at variance with current public opinion.

    If all parties created policies based solely on public opinion then they would all share a common manifesto.

    So Brexiteers within the party are encouraged to voice their views and, at the end of the day, the party members will decide.

    Seems like a very fair way to go about your business?

    As a result of brexit many have left the party while still more new recruits have joined.
    To be fair to your lot 59, they've always advocated a 2nd referendum and staying in the EU, this policy got them 2 million votes at the 2017 GE, Labour and Tories promised to respect the result of the referendum and got 24 million votes. I leave you to ponder that result and the wisdom of now advocating overturning the referendum result.

    What happens if Boris by some miracle gets us out of the EU ? You've staked everything on garnering the anti-Brexit vote, and you've had some success, but if that's been put to bed, what then, you'll be a bit like UKIP was after the referendum, a ship without a paddle.

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